In Episode 50 of the Killer Growth podcast, Samuel McVay sits down with Tylen Hall—The Hunter's Helper—for a second attempt at their conversation after a technical mishap derailed the first recording. Tylen brings a unique career trajectory: he grew up around his father's outfitting business, spent years as a journeyman pipe fitter in refineries, lived half the year in a remote Mexican fishing village, and eventually transitioned to full-time hunting consultation after a serious injury in 2021 ended his trades career.
During the conversation, Tylen opens up about the reality of turning a passion into a livelihood. He explains how his hunting group couldn't afford land leases in their mid-20s, which forced them to pivot and eventually launch into the outfitting industry. The discussion touches on the steep learning curve between hunting as a hobby versus hunting for a paycheck—when you depend on that income to feed your family, you improve faster. Tylen also shares practical hunting knowledge, including scouting techniques, proper layering for cold-weather hunts, and plans for future content like a foraging podcast.
The episode captures authentic, off-the-cuff storytelling about building a business around expertise and passion, with plenty of humor about the learning process.
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What's up guys? Sam McBay here with the What's up guys? Sam McBay here with the Killer Growth podcast and today I have Killer Growth podcast and today I have Killer Growth podcast and today I have Tylen Hall, the Hunter's Helper for the Tylen Hall, the Hunter's Helper for the Tylen Hall, the Hunter's Helper for the second time. second time. second time. » For the second time. I appreciate it. » For the second time. I appreciate it. » For the second time. I appreciate it. » Yeah, » Yeah, » Yeah, » we appreciate the first time and then, » we appreciate the first time and then, » we appreciate the first time and then, you know, you know, you know, » Yeah, » Yeah, » Yeah, » it went mute. » it went mute. » it went mute. » We had zero audio. That was a » We had zero audio. That was a » We had zero audio. That was a bummer deal. Our producer, he's bummer deal. Our producer, he's bummer deal. Our producer, he's learning, you know, he hasn't been learning, you know, he hasn't been learning, you know, he hasn't been around audio and video very long. I around audio and video very long. I around audio and video very long. I think you have to plug the mic in. He think you have to plug the mic in. He think you have to plug the mic in. He forgot, you know. And I have a little forgot, you know. And I have a little forgot, you know. And I have a little setup. I have like a setup sheet for setup. I have like a setup sheet for setup. I have like a setup sheet for him. Every time he's just got to go one him. Every time he's just got to go one him. Every time he's just got to go one item, you know, there's 10 steps. item, you know, there's 10 steps. item, you know, there's 10 steps. » You need to get a bigger crown so you » You need to get a bigger crown so you » You need to get a bigger crown so you can check off. can check off. can check off. » He has a hard time reading. » He has a hard time reading. » He has a hard time reading. » I forgot Norris can't read. » I forgot Norris can't read. » I forgot Norris can't read. » It happens. » It happens. » It happens. » It happens. » It happens. » It happens. » It's a real thing. » It's a real thing. » It's a real thing. » That's the best I've done to you. » That's the best I've done to you. » That's the best I've done to you. » So, we are live on two platforms. This » So, we are live on two platforms. This » So, we are live on two platforms. This is the first time. So, we're live on is the first time. So, we're live on is the first time. So, we're live on YouTube right now on Killer Growth and YouTube right now on Killer Growth and YouTube right now on Killer Growth and then Hunter Helpers live in the corner then Hunter Helpers live in the corner then Hunter Helpers live in the corner on Tik Tok. So, it's a little more on Tik Tok. So, it's a little more on Tik Tok. So, it's a little more intimidating. intimidating. intimidating. » Actually, not. Are you? Not really at » Actually, not. Are you? Not really at » Actually, not. Are you? Not really at all. It's not changing any dynamic. I all. It's not changing any dynamic. I all. It's not changing any dynamic. I thought it was thought it was thought it was » every day. » every day. » every day. » Better off the cuff in general in life, » Better off the cuff in general in life, » Better off the cuff in general in life, right? Less research is better right? Less research is better right? Less research is better sometimes. sometimes. sometimes. » Um, so let's Okay, so I know way more » Um, so let's Okay, so I know way more » Um, so let's Okay, so I know way more about you. So I was thinking about cuz about you. So I was thinking about cuz about you. So I was thinking about cuz I've already done this for over an hour I've already done this for over an hour I've already done this for over an hour with you and I'm like I still want to with you and I'm like I still want to with you and I'm like I still want to have great reactions, but the stories have great reactions, but the stories have great reactions, but the stories were so good. I'm not really worried were so good. I'm not really worried were so good. I'm not really worried about it. about it. about it. » Um, but let's just start with Tylen's » Um, but let's just start with Tylen's » Um, but let's just start with Tylen's background and then we'll end at background and then we'll end at background and then we'll end at Hunter's Helper. Hunter's Helper. Hunter's Helper. What what was your career path that led What what was your career path that led What what was your career path that led you to where you're at today? » Actually, it was the passion of » Actually, it was the passion of hunting and that drove me to the hunting and that drove me to the hunting and that drove me to the hunting industry and the reason we hunting industry and the reason we hunting industry and the reason we had to drive or the reason we drove at had to drive or the reason we drove at had to drive or the reason we drove at the time we did was because we couldn't the time we did was because we couldn't the time we did was because we couldn't afford land leases um as an individual afford land leases um as an individual afford land leases um as an individual hunter. Our buddies couldn't, our group hunter. Our buddies couldn't, our group hunter. Our buddies couldn't, our group of people that we ran with, we just of people that we ran with, we just of people that we ran with, we just couldn't afford it at the time. I was in couldn't afford it at the time. I was in couldn't afford it at the time. I was in my mid 20s, you know, living paycheck to my mid 20s, you know, living paycheck to my mid 20s, you know, living paycheck to paycheck, you know, paycheck, you know, paycheck, you know, » it's a different time, » it's a different time, » it's a different time, » you know. Uh but no, we uh it was either » you know. Uh but no, we uh it was either » you know. Uh but no, we uh it was either jump on board or get left behind. And um jump on board or get left behind. And um jump on board or get left behind. And um although we didn't like to although we didn't like to although we didn't like to take away from those that can get take away from those that can get take away from those that can get private permission. Um it was at the private permission. Um it was at the private permission. Um it was at the time where if if we want to do this, we time where if if we want to do this, we time where if if we want to do this, we got to go forth with it. got to go forth with it. got to go forth with it. » Yeah. And so, uh, my father and I, uh, » Yeah. And so, uh, my father and I, uh, » Yeah. And so, uh, my father and I, uh, or I, I helped my father and in the, um, or I, I helped my father and in the, um, or I, I helped my father and in the, um, the outfitter business and the outfitter business and the outfitter business and from there it just kind of snowballed from there it just kind of snowballed from there it just kind of snowballed and was already an outfitter. and was already an outfitter. and was already an outfitter. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. » All grown up. » All grown up. » All grown up. » What's that? » What's that? » What's that? » Your dad was an outfitter. All grown up. » Your dad was an outfitter. All grown up. » Your dad was an outfitter. All grown up. Okay. Okay. Okay. » All grown up. Yeah. » All grown up. Yeah. » All grown up. Yeah. » I think you mentioned that last time. » I think you mentioned that last time. » I think you mentioned that last time. » Yeah. He was an outfitter. And um, you » Yeah. He was an outfitter. And um, you » Yeah. He was an outfitter. And um, you know, at that time, you think you know, at that time, you think you know, at that time, you think you know a lot about hunting until you go to know a lot about hunting until you go to know a lot about hunting until you go to do it for a living. When Yeah. When you do it for a living. When Yeah. When you do it for a living. When Yeah. When you when you rely on that paycheck for your when you rely on that paycheck for your when you rely on that paycheck for your kids to eat, you become better kids to eat, you become better kids to eat, you become better faster. faster. faster. » Is Ace Ventura the Did he did Did he » Is Ace Ventura the Did he did Did he » Is Ace Ventura the Did he did Did he ever like eat feces to just kind of ever like eat feces to just kind of ever like eat feces to just kind of gauge the proximity of where they were? gauge the proximity of where they were? gauge the proximity of where they were? I don't think we ever done that. We joke I don't think we ever done that. We joke I don't think we ever done that. We joke about that a lot. No, it was uh about that a lot. No, it was uh about that a lot. No, it was uh Mousetrap, I think, where the guy comes Mousetrap, I think, where the guy comes Mousetrap, I think, where the guy comes in the movie about the invasive mouse in the movie about the invasive mouse in the movie about the invasive mouse and the guy comes in and he's the and the guy comes in and he's the and the guy comes in and he's the exterminator and he takes the mouse exterminator and he takes the mouse exterminator and he takes the mouse feces and he's like feces and he's like feces and he's like » and he's like fresh like a day old. » and he's like fresh like a day old. » and he's like fresh like a day old. We we do pick it up. We we do pick it up. We we do pick it up. » Why do you pick it up? » Why do you pick it up? » Why do you pick it up? » Just to feel the moisture content and » Just to feel the moisture content and » Just to feel the moisture content and look, see what they're eating. Wasn't look, see what they're eating. Wasn't look, see what they're eating. Wasn't far off. Um you know that there's you far off. Um you know that there's you far off. Um you know that there's you judge your herd off that, you judge your herd off that, you judge your herd off that, you know, see what you got. know, see what you got. know, see what you got. » You judge the antler size. We have some » You judge the antler size. We have some » You judge the antler size. We have some uh uh uh » you know, most of that's genetics. » you know, most of that's genetics. » you know, most of that's genetics. » Um you tell that by the poop? » Um you tell that by the poop? » Um you tell that by the poop? » No. No. I I um I can, » No. No. I I um I can, » No. No. I I um I can, » you know, and people think I'm crazy, » you know, and people think I'm crazy, » you know, and people think I'm crazy, but you know, it seems like I can tell but you know, it seems like I can tell but you know, it seems like I can tell the difference between a 2 and 1/ the difference between a 2 and 1/ the difference between a 2 and 1/ halfyear-old buck and a 4 and 1/ halfyear-old buck and a 4 and 1/ halfyear-old buck and a 4 and 1/ halfyear-old buck halfyear-old buck halfyear-old buck » by the feces » by the feces » by the feces » by the size of the fecal matter. » by the size of the fecal matter. » by the size of the fecal matter. » Interesting. » Interesting. » Interesting. » Normally, when you got a pretty good » Normally, when you got a pretty good » Normally, when you got a pretty good pile of Stanley Steamer laying there, pile of Stanley Steamer laying there, pile of Stanley Steamer laying there, you got a pretty good deer. But you got a pretty good deer. But you got a pretty good deer. But » yeah, » yeah, » yeah, » you know, some people tell me I'm crazy, » you know, some people tell me I'm crazy, » you know, some people tell me I'm crazy, but » seems to work. It seems to work out. I » seems to work. It seems to work out. I » seems to work. It seems to work out. I mean, mean, mean, » some say you're crazy or most everybody » some say you're crazy or most everybody » some say you're crazy or most everybody knows » we we like to be honest on this podcast. » we we like to be honest on this podcast. » we we like to be honest on this podcast. 92. 92. 92. » Interesting. Okay. So, round outfitting, » Interesting. Okay. So, round outfitting, » Interesting. Okay. So, round outfitting, then you had some day jobs. Um, let's then you had some day jobs. Um, let's then you had some day jobs. Um, let's jump into You were a pipe fitter. jump into You were a pipe fitter. jump into You were a pipe fitter. » I was a pipe fitter in the refineries. » I was a pipe fitter in the refineries. » I was a pipe fitter in the refineries. Um, worked out, new construction. New Um, worked out, new construction. New Um, worked out, new construction. New construction was my bread and butter. construction was my bread and butter. construction was my bread and butter. And then we, you know, traveled and then And then we, you know, traveled and then And then we, you know, traveled and then came home and hunted and then eventually came home and hunted and then eventually came home and hunted and then eventually had to start picking up jobs here at the had to start picking up jobs here at the had to start picking up jobs here at the house because of the kids and not house because of the kids and not house because of the kids and not wanting to travel and miss their lives. wanting to travel and miss their lives. wanting to travel and miss their lives. Um, and then I got injured back in 21 Um, and then I got injured back in 21 Um, and then I got injured back in 21 out there at the refinery and just had out there at the refinery and just had out there at the refinery and just had to go full-time hunting. And how do to go full-time hunting. And how do to go full-time hunting. And how do you go full-time hunting when there's you go full-time hunting when there's you go full-time hunting when there's only a hunting season and it's, you only a hunting season and it's, you only a hunting season and it's, you know, to get more into the know, to get more into the know, to get more into the » the consulting, the going in setting up » the consulting, the going in setting up » the consulting, the going in setting up land. land. land. » It would just be poaching at that point. » It would just be poaching at that point. » It would just be poaching at that point. » Well, yeah. And and you know, it's been » Well, yeah. And and you know, it's been » Well, yeah. And and you know, it's been so long since I've even killed anything. so long since I've even killed anything. so long since I've even killed anything. You know, I just enjoy the hunt and You know, I just enjoy the hunt and You know, I just enjoy the hunt and helping others. Yeah. helping others. Yeah. helping others. Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. » That's really what it is. Just I get » That's really what it is. Just I get » That's really what it is. Just I get more enjoyment of that. more enjoyment of that. more enjoyment of that. » What? So, give me the timeline. You did » What? So, give me the timeline. You did » What? So, give me the timeline. You did live in Mexico. live in Mexico. live in Mexico. » I did live in Mexico. We wintered down » I did live in Mexico. We wintered down » I did live in Mexico. We wintered down there for the most part when we lived there for the most part when we lived there for the most part when we lived there. there. there. » You know, we just did a fishing and » You know, we just did a fishing and » You know, we just did a fishing and excursion business. Um, excursion business. Um, excursion business. Um, my partner Fernando is still in business my partner Fernando is still in business my partner Fernando is still in business down there at myar.com. They're they're down there at myar.com. They're they're down there at myar.com. They're they're amazing uh recreational place down amazing uh recreational place down amazing uh recreational place down there, but everything's a ecoourism type there, but everything's a ecoourism type there, but everything's a ecoourism type thing. thing. thing. » Um, » Um, » Um, » what does that mean? The winter » what does that mean? The winter » what does that mean? The wintering down like how many months at a wintering down like how many months at a wintering down like how many months at a time? Uh we did about 6 months out of time? Uh we did about 6 months out of time? Uh we did about 6 months out of the year the year the year » and then come back and catch one » and then come back and catch one » and then come back and catch one turnaround and go right into hunting. turnaround and go right into hunting. turnaround and go right into hunting. And » and I've seen some photos of where you » and I've seen some photos of where you » and I've seen some photos of where you were after the first conversation. It were after the first conversation. It were after the first conversation. It was really cool. You were you're on the was really cool. You were you're on the was really cool. You were you're on the coast, right? coast, right? coast, right? » Right. Right. » Right. Right. » Right. Right. » And uh hard to get to. » And uh hard to get to. » And uh hard to get to. » Yeah. We only get there by boat, by » Yeah. We only get there by boat, by » Yeah. We only get there by boat, by water taxi or or by private boat. water taxi or or by private boat. water taxi or or by private boat. » Okay. No other way to get there. » Okay. No other way to get there. » Okay. No other way to get there. » There is a way to get there. Um » There is a way to get there. Um » There is a way to get there. Um » well, you could get there by helicopter. » well, you could get there by helicopter. » well, you could get there by helicopter. I don't know where the heck you'd land I don't know where the heck you'd land I don't know where the heck you'd land at. Miles and miles on top of the at. Miles and miles on top of the at. Miles and miles on top of the mountain. Uh, unless you had one that mountain. Uh, unless you had one that mountain. Uh, unless you had one that could land on the water. I wouldn't could land on the water. I wouldn't could land on the water. I wouldn't suggest that. suggest that. suggest that. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. » You know, right there. Right there where » You know, right there. Right there where » You know, right there. Right there where we're at. I think it's 800t deep in our we're at. I think it's 800t deep in our we're at. I think it's 800t deep in our little cove right there. little cove right there. little cove right there. » Oh my. So, » Oh my. So, » Oh my. So, » in a cove. » in a cove. » in a cove. » Yeah. It's It's » Yeah. It's It's » Yeah. It's It's » That's really deep. » That's really deep. » That's really deep. » My boat was on the moing. One side was » My boat was on the moing. One side was » My boat was on the moing. One side was about 80 foot and the other side was about 80 foot and the other side was about 80 foot and the other side was about 100 foot just depending on the how about 100 foot just depending on the how about 100 foot just depending on the how it shifted in the water. So, it shifted in the water. So, it shifted in the water. So, » jeez. » jeez. » jeez. » There's a big It's a big It's mountain » There's a big It's a big It's mountain » There's a big It's a big It's mountains with palm trees, which is mountains with palm trees, which is mountains with palm trees, which is really weird in my head coming from really weird in my head coming from really weird in my head coming from Kansas especially. Kansas especially. Kansas especially. » Yeah, no kidding. mountains we see » Yeah, no kidding. mountains we see » Yeah, no kidding. mountains we see around in Colorado and around in Colorado and around in Colorado and » hills are mountains are mountain they're » hills are mountains are mountain they're » hills are mountains are mountain they're just big hills just big hills just big hills » yeah but yeah it was weird the first » yeah but yeah it was weird the first » yeah but yeah it was weird the first time I ever seen it it was just you know time I ever seen it it was just you know time I ever seen it it was just you know and Fernando said welcome home the first and Fernando said welcome home the first and Fernando said welcome home the first time I seen it was time I seen it was time I seen it was » and it it did it felt like home and » and it it did it felt like home and » and it it did it felt like home and everybody there feels like family everybody there feels like family everybody there feels like family » that's cool so is it like a village or » that's cool so is it like a village or » that's cool so is it like a village or » it is it's a fishing village it's a » it is it's a fishing village it's a » it is it's a fishing village it's a fishing village fishing village fishing village » fishing village » fishing village » fishing village » and it's spread out yalapa it's where me » and it's spread out yalapa it's where me » and it's spread out yalapa it's where me it means where two rivers meet and it means where two rivers meet and it means where two rivers meet and there's the town waterfall and then there's the town waterfall and then there's the town waterfall and then there's a waterfall upstream and the two there's a waterfall upstream and the two there's a waterfall upstream and the two rivers meet right there and dump into rivers meet right there and dump into rivers meet right there and dump into the ocean and I live on the Garcia side the ocean and I live on the Garcia side the ocean and I live on the Garcia side of the mountain and of the mountain and of the mountain and » and you were a fishing guide. » and you were a fishing guide. » and you were a fishing guide. » Uhhuh. » Uhhuh. » Uhhuh. » Um so I had my first fishing guide » Um so I had my first fishing guide » Um so I had my first fishing guide experience in Dest Florida last summer. experience in Dest Florida last summer. experience in Dest Florida last summer. » Um shout out to Josh Kogan. He best day » Um shout out to Josh Kogan. He best day » Um shout out to Josh Kogan. He best day of his life. Uh he caught zero fish. We of his life. Uh he caught zero fish. We of his life. Uh he caught zero fish. We ended up catching and this guy was this ended up catching and this guy was this ended up catching and this guy was this guy like he swore like he knew he knew guy like he swore like he knew he knew guy like he swore like he knew he knew what he was doing. And it's it's Philip, what he was doing. And it's it's Philip, what he was doing. And it's it's Philip, Kogan, and myself. And we're on this Kogan, and myself. And we're on this Kogan, and myself. And we're on this boat, and he just got stung by a boat, and he just got stung by a boat, and he just got stung by a jellyfish, by the way. So, the first jellyfish, by the way. So, the first jellyfish, by the way. So, the first introduction is we're getting on the introduction is we're getting on the introduction is we're getting on the boat. Kogan goes up and just squeezes boat. Kogan goes up and just squeezes boat. Kogan goes up and just squeezes the heck out of his hand, you know, firm the heck out of his hand, you know, firm the heck out of his hand, you know, firm manly handshake. Like, this guy's a, you manly handshake. Like, this guy's a, you manly handshake. Like, this guy's a, you know, fishing guide. I'm going to And know, fishing guide. I'm going to And know, fishing guide. I'm going to And the guy just goes, "That's the guy just goes, "That's the guy just goes, "That's how the whole trip starts." And he goes, how the whole trip starts." And he goes, how the whole trip starts." And he goes, and his hand looks like a I mean, like a and his hand looks like a I mean, like a and his hand looks like a I mean, like a gorilla palm. It's swollen up. And he's gorilla palm. It's swollen up. And he's gorilla palm. It's swollen up. And he's like, "I just got stung by a not a like, "I just got stung by a not a like, "I just got stung by a not a jelly, a a stingray." jelly, a a stingray." jelly, a a stingray." » Oh goodness. Stingray. Yeah. Yeah. Those » Oh goodness. Stingray. Yeah. Yeah. Those » Oh goodness. Stingray. Yeah. Yeah. Those things are stung by a stingray. And he's things are stung by a stingray. And he's things are stung by a stingray. And he's sitting there looking at it. And we're sitting there looking at it. And we're sitting there looking at it. And we're like, "You okay?" Like it did not look like, "You okay?" Like it did not look like, "You okay?" Like it did not look good. He's like, "Yeah, I think it's good. He's like, "Yeah, I think it's good. He's like, "Yeah, I think it's fine." Like, but he was questioning fine." Like, but he was questioning fine." Like, but he was questioning himself. And we're like, "So, we're himself. And we're like, "So, we're himself. And we're like, "So, we're going to go out in the water for like 8 going to go out in the water for like 8 going to go out in the water for like 8 hours and like you're going to be fine." hours and like you're going to be fine." hours and like you're going to be fine." And he kept So, fast forward, he was And he kept So, fast forward, he was And he kept So, fast forward, he was just like convinced like he's he's the just like convinced like he's he's the just like convinced like he's he's the guy. It was a referral. We ended up guy. It was a referral. We ended up guy. It was a referral. We ended up catching I think four fish, like little catching I think four fish, like little catching I think four fish, like little fish the whole day. I mean, we're out fish the whole day. I mean, we're out fish the whole day. I mean, we're out there for hours and I'm gonna throw there for hours and I'm gonna throw there for hours and I'm gonna throw Philip under the bus because he caught Philip under the bus because he caught Philip under the bus because he caught two, but he went up for the photo and two, but he went up for the photo and two, but he went up for the photo and man, this is the best story ever. He man, this is the best story ever. He man, this is the best story ever. He goes up and we didn't get our camera out goes up and we didn't get our camera out goes up and we didn't get our camera out in time. He loses the fish, bounces out in time. He loses the fish, bounces out in time. He loses the fish, bounces out of the boat into the water. It's like of the boat into the water. It's like of the boat into the water. It's like the first one we caught and the guy just the first one we caught and the guy just the first one we caught and the guy just ripped into him. He was like, "Dude, I ripped into him. He was like, "Dude, I ripped into him. He was like, "Dude, I have I have never even had a kid on this have I have never even had a kid on this have I have never even had a kid on this boat do that." boat do that." boat do that." » Miss Philip Solario. » Miss Philip Solario. » Miss Philip Solario. » Philip Solario. Yeah, it was a good » Philip Solario. Yeah, it was a good » Philip Solario. Yeah, it was a good time, but it was brutal. And he kept time, but it was brutal. And he kept time, but it was brutal. And he kept telling us it was he kept naming all telling us it was he kept naming all telling us it was he kept naming all these reasons, but by the end of it, we these reasons, but by the end of it, we these reasons, but by the end of it, we just were like, "Maybe he's just not just were like, "Maybe he's just not just were like, "Maybe he's just not legit, but like we couldn't catch legit, but like we couldn't catch legit, but like we couldn't catch anything." anything." anything." » Yeah, Dustin's a good fishing vocation. » Yeah, Dustin's a good fishing vocation. » Yeah, Dustin's a good fishing vocation. » Yeah, » Yeah, » Yeah, » from what I've heard. Yeah, » from what I've heard. Yeah, » from what I've heard. Yeah, » but there are those days, you know, » but there are those days, you know, » but there are those days, you know, » right? And that's fishing, I guess. » right? And that's fishing, I guess. » right? And that's fishing, I guess. » Those days we go out and target » Those days we go out and target » Those days we go out and target sailfish. That was my main target when I sailfish. That was my main target when I sailfish. That was my main target when I first moved to Mexico or first started first moved to Mexico or first started first moved to Mexico or first started vacationing there. Um was sailfish. And vacationing there. Um was sailfish. And vacationing there. Um was sailfish. And one day they it'll be hot like eight one day they it'll be hot like eight one day they it'll be hot like eight cellfish hookups. You know, the next day cellfish hookups. You know, the next day cellfish hookups. You know, the next day you can't buy one, you know, it's just you can't buy one, you know, it's just you can't buy one, you know, it's just like you'll you'll go a big problem, like you'll you'll go a big problem, like you'll you'll go a big problem, too. He said, "All the bait's gone." too. He said, "All the bait's gone." too. He said, "All the bait's gone." That was kind of the first red flag. That was kind of the first red flag. That was kind of the first red flag. He's like, "There's no good bait left He's like, "There's no good bait left He's like, "There's no good bait left out there. This is what I got today." out there. This is what I got today." out there. This is what I got today." We're like, We're like, We're like, » "Okay, here's the $1,000 » "Okay, here's the $1,000 » "Okay, here's the $1,000 for our day with you, and we don't have for our day with you, and we don't have for our day with you, and we don't have any good bait." I mean, he was real any good bait." I mean, he was real any good bait." I mean, he was real honest. He he he was real transparent honest. He he he was real transparent honest. He he he was real transparent about what was going down the whole about what was going down the whole about what was going down the whole time, but he cast for us every time. Um, time, but he cast for us every time. Um, time, but he cast for us every time. Um, did you guys do like deep sea stuff or did you guys do like deep sea stuff or did you guys do like deep sea stuff or were you just fishing off the boat? were you just fishing off the boat? were you just fishing off the boat? » Well, both. » Well, both. » Well, both. » All of it? » All of it? » All of it? » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. We'll run like 150 mi out. » Yeah. We'll run like 150 mi out. » Yeah. We'll run like 150 mi out. » Jeez. » Jeez. » Jeez. » 60 mi out. Just depends on where we're » 60 mi out. Just depends on where we're » 60 mi out. Just depends on where we're fishing and where what we're targeting fishing and where what we're targeting fishing and where what we're targeting that day. Um, some days we'll be rubbing that day. Um, some days we'll be rubbing that day. Um, some days we'll be rubbing paint right on the mountain side, paint right on the mountain side, paint right on the mountain side, catching fish left and right. I mean, catching fish left and right. I mean, catching fish left and right. I mean, literally the literally the literally the » When you say rubbing paint, » When you say rubbing paint, » When you say rubbing paint, » rock wall, like literally you can't put » rock wall, like literally you can't put » rock wall, like literally you can't put your fingers between the side of the your fingers between the side of the your fingers between the side of the boat and the mountain. Wow. You know, it boat and the mountain. Wow. You know, it boat and the mountain. Wow. You know, it just kind of depends on right there. just kind of depends on right there. just kind of depends on right there. » Oh, yeah. Hundreds of feet straight » Oh, yeah. Hundreds of feet straight » Oh, yeah. Hundreds of feet straight down, you know. It just kind of down, you know. It just kind of down, you know. It just kind of depends, you know. Yeah. You got to know depends, you know. Yeah. You got to know depends, you know. Yeah. You got to know where that pile of rock. where that pile of rock. where that pile of rock. » What are you catching? What are you » What are you catching? What are you » What are you catching? What are you hoping them catch out there? hoping them catch out there? hoping them catch out there? » The bonita. You can catch bonita right » The bonita. You can catch bonita right » The bonita. You can catch bonita right in there like that. The Spanish in there like that. The Spanish in there like that. The Spanish mackerel, uh, amber jacks. Um, mackerel, uh, amber jacks. Um, mackerel, uh, amber jacks. Um, » not things we're going to find in Elder » not things we're going to find in Elder » not things we're going to find in Elder Lake. Lake. Lake. » Not anything we're going to find in » Not anything we're going to find in » Not anything we're going to find in Elder Lake. Not big stuff. Elder Lake. Not big stuff. Elder Lake. Not big stuff. » By the way, says he had fun. » By the way, says he had fun. » By the way, says he had fun. » Yes. » That's amazing. » That's amazing. » Uh so you're are these like big like big » Uh so you're are these like big like big » Uh so you're are these like big like big fish like fish like fish like » they can be. They can be most of our » they can be. They can be most of our » they can be. They can be most of our bonita like during the bonita run. So a bonita like during the bonita run. So a bonita like during the bonita run. So a bonita true bonita is a white meat. Um, bonita true bonita is a white meat. Um, bonita true bonita is a white meat. Um, most people in the US, especially the most people in the US, especially the most people in the US, especially the Florida region, Florida region, Florida region, » me, » me, » me, » no, tuna is not. And tuna, tuna is a » no, tuna is not. And tuna, tuna is a » no, tuna is not. And tuna, tuna is a skit. So, the fish in the US that skit. So, the fish in the US that skit. So, the fish in the US that everybody says that they're selling up everybody says that they're selling up everybody says that they're selling up basically they sell up for billfish. Um, basically they sell up for billfish. Um, basically they sell up for billfish. Um, they say they're fishing with bonita. they say they're fishing with bonita. they say they're fishing with bonita. They're not really, most the time They're not really, most the time They're not really, most the time they're not really fishing with a they're not really fishing with a they're not really fishing with a bonita. They're fishing with a skipj bonita. They're fishing with a skipj bonita. They're fishing with a skipj jack tuna, which is the tuna family. jack tuna, which is the tuna family. jack tuna, which is the tuna family. Bonita is not. And bonita is a white Bonita is not. And bonita is a white Bonita is not. And bonita is a white meat fish. It is sushi grade. Is one of meat fish. It is sushi grade. Is one of meat fish. It is sushi grade. Is one of the best interest. Um, but to get the best interest. Um, but to get the best interest. Um, but to get somebody convinced that's from the somebody convinced that's from the somebody convinced that's from the US, they think when you say Bonita, they US, they think when you say Bonita, they US, they think when you say Bonita, they think they're catching skip jack tuna. think they're catching skip jack tuna. think they're catching skip jack tuna. And the espanol word for it is a U, And the espanol word for it is a U, And the espanol word for it is a U, which means a cigarette butt, junk. which means a cigarette butt, junk. which means a cigarette butt, junk. » Oh. » Oh. » Oh. » Um, and so a skipjack is dark red meat. » Um, and so a skipjack is dark red meat. » Um, and so a skipjack is dark red meat. Um, really bloody looks like basically Um, really bloody looks like basically Um, really bloody looks like basically the loins of of a deer, white tail the loins of of a deer, white tail the loins of of a deer, white tail deer. deer. deer. » Full circle. » Full circle. » Full circle. » But » But » But anyway, anyway, anyway, » back to Kansas. So bonito is one of my » back to Kansas. So bonito is one of my » back to Kansas. So bonito is one of my favorites just because it's sushi grade. favorites just because it's sushi grade. favorites just because it's sushi grade. Now » can you order it anywhere in the states? » can you order it anywhere in the states? » can you order it anywhere in the states? Do they import it? Do they import it? Do they import it? » You know, I don't know if they do or » You know, I don't know if they do or » You know, I don't know if they do or not. not. not. » I don't think I've ever seen that on » I don't think I've ever seen that on » I don't think I've ever seen that on bonita menu. I love sushi. bonita menu. I love sushi. bonita menu. I love sushi. » Like I said, most time when you see » Like I said, most time when you see » Like I said, most time when you see bonita anywhere in US, it's going to be bonita anywhere in US, it's going to be bonita anywhere in US, it's going to be actually a skip jack tuna, which is not actually a skip jack tuna, which is not actually a skip jack tuna, which is not even » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Onita me is beautiful. So » Onita me is beautiful. So » Onita me is beautiful. So » Okay. So you had a So you own the boat, » Okay. So you had a So you own the boat, » Okay. So you had a So you own the boat, had a business partner with the boat. had a business partner with the boat. had a business partner with the boat. » I did. And I owned it together. » I did. And I owned it together. » I did. And I owned it together. » How how does that connection happen? » How how does that connection happen? » How how does that connection happen? That seems like That seems like That seems like » so uh his wife um and I were » so uh his wife um and I were » so uh his wife um and I were classmates. She was a year below classmates. She was a year below classmates. She was a year below us. A year below me in school. us. A year below me in school. us. A year below me in school. » Okay. » Okay. » Okay. » Out of Flynn Hills. Um small town girl. » Out of Flynn Hills. Um small town girl. » Out of Flynn Hills. Um small town girl. Met him out in California when he worked Met him out in California when he worked Met him out in California when he worked at a restaurant and they went back to at a restaurant and they went back to at a restaurant and they went back to where he came from and where he came from and where he came from and » Oh, wow. » Oh, wow. » Oh, wow. » started this amazing excursion business » started this amazing excursion business » started this amazing excursion business and they have rental houses and I'd sold and they have rental houses and I'd sold and they have rental houses and I'd sold I've sold my rental houses since but I've sold my rental houses since but I've sold my rental houses since but » Yeah. So you own property out there. You » Yeah. So you own property out there. You » Yeah. So you own property out there. You » Well, I couldn't couldn't own it. It's » Well, I couldn't couldn't own it. It's » Well, I couldn't couldn't own it. It's in the Cababornas, which is a loose in the Cababornas, which is a loose in the Cababornas, which is a loose translation for Indian reservation for translation for Indian reservation for translation for Indian reservation for us. Um, and they're indigenous people of us. Um, and they're indigenous people of us. Um, and they're indigenous people of that area. So, it's a protected area and that area. So, it's a protected area and that area. So, it's a protected area and in that village rule is that you cannot in that village rule is that you cannot in that village rule is that you cannot own land there unless you are natively own land there unless you are natively own land there unless you are natively born there. born there. born there. » So, I had to do a long-term lease on it. » So, I had to do a long-term lease on it. » So, I had to do a long-term lease on it. » Okay. » Okay. » Okay. » So, you kind of got to weigh your » So, you kind of got to weigh your » So, you kind of got to weigh your » So, then you could re subleasase it out » So, then you could re subleasase it out » So, then you could re subleasase it out when you weren't there, you hold it. when you weren't there, you hold it. when you weren't there, you hold it. Okay. Okay. Okay. » Yes. It was just kind of like, you know, » Yes. It was just kind of like, you know, » Yes. It was just kind of like, you know, a family lodge type thing like tried a family lodge type thing like tried a family lodge type thing like tried to always run something. tried to always run something. tried to always run something. » Was there a lot of American tourism » Was there a lot of American tourism » Was there a lot of American tourism coming in that you were guiding? That coming in that you were guiding? That coming in that you were guiding? That was the customer base obviously. I guess was the customer base obviously. I guess was the customer base obviously. I guess yeah, from Canada and from the US. yeah, from Canada and from the US. yeah, from Canada and from the US. » Interesting. » Interesting. » Interesting. » There's a big Canada group that goes » There's a big Canada group that goes » There's a big Canada group that goes down there. down there. down there. » That's really cool. » That's really cool. » That's really cool. » That's I'll never do cool my whole life » That's I'll never do cool my whole life » That's I'll never do cool my whole life » cuz I didn't speak much Spanish. » cuz I didn't speak much Spanish. » cuz I didn't speak much Spanish. » Yeah, » Yeah, » Yeah, » that's true. Not much at all. » that's true. Not much at all. » that's true. Not much at all. » Which I guess that's kind of » Which I guess that's kind of » Which I guess that's kind of » Oh, yeah. » Oh, yeah. » Oh, yeah. I know. I know. If you get me in I know. I know. If you get me in I know. I know. If you get me in trouble, that's what I need. trouble, that's what I need. trouble, that's what I need. » All right, let's hear. Get yourself » All right, let's hear. Get yourself » All right, let's hear. Get yourself in trouble. in trouble. in trouble. » No, I'm not. » No, I'm not. » No, I'm not. » Call me something nasty. » Call me something nasty. » Call me something nasty. » I I can I can order you certain things » I I can I can order you certain things » I I can I can order you certain things and » order food. All right. » order food. All right. » order food. All right. » A little bit a little bit of it. » A little bit a little bit of it. » A little bit a little bit of it. » I want a cheeseburger and fries. » I want a cheeseburger and fries. » I want a cheeseburger and fries. » Normally I mess up and I say something » Normally I mess up and I say something » Normally I mess up and I say something weird and like comes out and I'm like weird and like comes out and I'm like weird and like comes out and I'm like » that's not what I That's not what I » that's not what I That's not what I » that's not what I That's not what I meant. It's what I said, but that is meant. It's what I said, but that is meant. It's what I said, but that is definitely not what I meant. definitely not what I meant. definitely not what I meant. You know, it's like when uh You know, it's like when uh You know, it's like when uh somebody from Mexico comes into an somebody from Mexico comes into an somebody from Mexico comes into an office here in town, a lot of times office here in town, a lot of times office here in town, a lot of times they'll have a little kid that speaks, they'll have a little kid that speaks, they'll have a little kid that speaks, you know, that's bilingual. Uh my you know, that's bilingual. Uh my you know, that's bilingual. Uh my daughter is my translator. My son can, daughter is my translator. My son can, daughter is my translator. My son can, too, but he won't. And my daughter, it's too, but he won't. And my daughter, it's too, but he won't. And my daughter, it's like pulling teeth to get her to say like pulling teeth to get her to say like pulling teeth to get her to say something, you know, but she has a something, you know, but she has a something, you know, but she has a beautiful, beautiful Mexican uh accent. beautiful, beautiful Mexican uh accent. beautiful, beautiful Mexican uh accent. » Wow. » Wow. » Wow. » They say that she speaks better » They say that she speaks better » They say that she speaks better than they do than locals. But than they do than locals. But than they do than locals. But » yeah, I would say how old was she when » yeah, I would say how old was she when » yeah, I would say how old was she when she was there? Oh god, they were I think she was there? Oh god, they were I think she was there? Oh god, they were I think they were I think she was like two with they were I think she was like two with they were I think she was like two with the first time she went there. the first time she went there. the first time she went there. » Yeah, those are very formative. » Yeah, those are very formative. » Yeah, those are very formative. » She's speech. » She's speech. » She's speech. » Most all those kids that around their » Most all those kids that around their » Most all those kids that around their age, they're they're like family to us, age, they're they're like family to us, age, they're they're like family to us, you know, we see them. We still give you know, we see them. We still give you know, we see them. We still give them hugs and say hello. them hugs and say hello. them hugs and say hello. » So cool. I've always wanted that uh for » So cool. I've always wanted that uh for » So cool. I've always wanted that uh for my kids. I always thought that'd be cool my kids. I always thought that'd be cool my kids. I always thought that'd be cool to be somewhere else and learning cuz to be somewhere else and learning cuz to be somewhere else and learning cuz that's the best way um immersive that's the best way um immersive that's the best way um immersive language learning. I don't know what you language learning. I don't know what you language learning. I don't know what you call that, but call that, but call that, but » being around people. Well, I went to » being around people. Well, I went to » being around people. Well, I went to Nicaragua when I was in I think I was Nicaragua when I was in I think I was Nicaragua when I was in I think I was going into my freshman year of high going into my freshman year of high going into my freshman year of high school. I went on a mission trip with my school. I went on a mission trip with my school. I went on a mission trip with my dad. It was his first time leaving the dad. It was his first time leaving the dad. It was his first time leaving the country and we fed we like took a bunch country and we fed we like took a bunch country and we fed we like took a bunch of food into a village and helped of food into a village and helped of food into a village and helped orphanage out and um but there was all orphanage out and um but there was all orphanage out and um but there was all these gringoes these gringoes these gringoes » right » right » right » in a village living in the village and » in a village living in the village and » in a village living in the village and they were there to help but more they were there to help but more they were there to help but more importantly polish the language like get importantly polish the language like get importantly polish the language like get better at speaking the language. And a better at speaking the language. And a better at speaking the language. And a couple of those people I talked to, they couple of those people I talked to, they couple of those people I talked to, they were and they were like college, high were and they were like college, high were and they were like college, high school. I think they were college kids. school. I think they were college kids. school. I think they were college kids. And they said what they learn, what they And they said what they learn, what they And they said what they learn, what they figured out in three months there versus figured out in three months there versus figured out in three months there versus the last four years in America was night the last four years in America was night the last four years in America was night and day, right? and day, right? and day, right? » Um but like being in it all day and you » Um but like being in it all day and you » Um but like being in it all day and you have no other choice. have no other choice. have no other choice. » And there's so much slang that you'll » And there's so much slang that you'll » And there's so much slang that you'll never learn. never learn. never learn. » They talked about that too in the » They talked about that too in the » They talked about that too in the dialects, right? It was like even that dialects, right? It was like even that dialects, right? It was like even that village had they said you go 40 miles village had they said you go 40 miles village had they said you go 40 miles and that village had a different and that village had a different and that village had a different dialect. dialect. dialect. » Yes. » Yes. » Yes. » To what they were speaking. Yeah. Yeah. » To what they were speaking. Yeah. Yeah. » To what they were speaking. Yeah. Yeah. That's interesting. That was the first That's interesting. That was the first That's interesting. That was the first time, fun fact, I was in an ocean and time, fun fact, I was in an ocean and time, fun fact, I was in an ocean and there was an undertoe or whatever you there was an undertoe or whatever you there was an undertoe or whatever you call that and a couple of us got pulled call that and a couple of us got pulled call that and a couple of us got pulled out. It was a bad deal and no one knew, out. It was a bad deal and no one knew, out. It was a bad deal and no one knew, nor were they educated on how to get out nor were they educated on how to get out nor were they educated on how to get out of an undertoe. And apparently you don't of an undertoe. And apparently you don't of an undertoe. And apparently you don't want to go straight against it. That's want to go straight against it. That's want to go straight against it. That's all we did. We just went straight all we did. We just went straight all we did. We just went straight against it, fought it, against it, fought it, against it, fought it, » and that's scary. » and that's scary. » and that's scary. » It is. Yeah. Yeah. My dad could reach » It is. Yeah. Yeah. My dad could reach » It is. Yeah. Yeah. My dad could reach thankfully, but my dad would just grab thankfully, but my dad would just grab thankfully, but my dad would just grab me and throw me. And then I would just me and throw me. And then I would just me and throw me. And then I would just shoot right back at him. And he just shoot right back at him. And he just shoot right back at him. And he just kept walking. And another kid got sucked kept walking. And another kid got sucked kept walking. And another kid got sucked out. out. out. » Yeah, some of them will suck you » Yeah, some of them will suck you » Yeah, some of them will suck you hundreds and hundreds. hundreds and hundreds. hundreds and hundreds. » We could barely see them. And my cousin » We could barely see them. And my cousin » We could barely see them. And my cousin uh Andy Brickley actually was treading uh Andy Brickley actually was treading uh Andy Brickley actually was treading water out there for like 28 minutes with water out there for like 28 minutes with water out there for like 28 minutes with that kid that kid that kid » until they finally got him help. » until they finally got him help. » until they finally got him help. » It's a bad feeling. » It's a bad feeling. » It's a bad feeling. » Yeah. Yeah. There's the things like that » Yeah. Yeah. There's the things like that » Yeah. Yeah. There's the things like that you should know in foreign waters or you should know in foreign waters or you should know in foreign waters or just in general about water. All right, just in general about water. All right, just in general about water. All right, we're getting way off track, but this is we're getting way off track, but this is we're getting way off track, but this is I I every I knew I would be impressed I I every I knew I would be impressed I I every I knew I would be impressed again, but every time I talk to you, I'm again, but every time I talk to you, I'm again, but every time I talk to you, I'm like shocked because you don't put like shocked because you don't put like shocked because you don't put off this appearance of being super off this appearance of being super off this appearance of being super intelligent and I don't think you want intelligent and I don't think you want intelligent and I don't think you want to. to. to. » I don't. I try not to. » I don't. I try not to. » I don't. I try not to. » But you do have like some crazy things » But you do have like some crazy things » But you do have like some crazy things that are that are that are » That was one thing I always did when I » That was one thing I always did when I » That was one thing I always did when I went to a new job in the refinery is went to a new job in the refinery is went to a new job in the refinery is okay. So, as a pipe fitter, you're okay. So, as a pipe fitter, you're okay. So, as a pipe fitter, you're you're a journeyman class pipe fitter. I you're a journeyman class pipe fitter. I you're a journeyman class pipe fitter. I mean, you're certified through mean, you're certified through mean, you're certified through the national standards and you have the national standards and you have the national standards and you have to have the experience to become that. to have the experience to become that. to have the experience to become that. Um, and that's something I always did Um, and that's something I always did Um, and that's something I always did was on going to a new job is you act was on going to a new job is you act was on going to a new job is you act dumber in hell dumber in hell dumber in hell » and you act like you're there to help » and you act like you're there to help » and you act like you're there to help them. They're not there to help them. They're not there to help them. They're not there to help » under promise overd deliver, » under promise overd deliver, » under promise overd deliver, » right? And you know, you're supposed to » right? And you know, you're supposed to » right? And you know, you're supposed to be the true craftsman and then be the true craftsman and then be the true craftsman and then they're there to help you. And I always they're there to help you. And I always they're there to help you. And I always play that off. play that off. play that off. » So like, uh, how do you do that again? » So like, uh, how do you do that again? » So like, uh, how do you do that again? How's this work? Where'd you pull that How's this work? Where'd you pull that How's this work? Where'd you pull that measurement from? How tell please tell measurement from? How tell please tell measurement from? How tell please tell me how to do that. You know, me how to do that. You know, me how to do that. You know, » you're also empowering them to help them » you're also empowering them to help them » you're also empowering them to help them feel better. feel better. feel better. » Yeah. You're Yeah. You're only as sharp » Yeah. You're Yeah. You're only as sharp » Yeah. You're Yeah. You're only as sharp as the lowest man in your crew. So, as the lowest man in your crew. So, as the lowest man in your crew. So, » uh, fast forward, you got hurt. How'd » uh, fast forward, you got hurt. How'd » uh, fast forward, you got hurt. How'd you get hurt in 21? So, you pipe came you get hurt in 21? So, you pipe came you get hurt in 21? So, you pipe came back done with the Mexico thing. You're back done with the Mexico thing. You're back done with the Mexico thing. You're pipe fitting. pipe fitting. pipe fitting. » Damn. 21 hits. » Damn. 21 hits. » Damn. 21 hits. » So, my partner at the refinery, uh, he's » So, my partner at the refinery, uh, he's » So, my partner at the refinery, uh, he's he's a little bit older than I am. He he's a little bit older than I am. He he's a little bit older than I am. He was an iron worker and I was a pipe was an iron worker and I was a pipe was an iron worker and I was a pipe fitter. And so, he works with square fitter. And so, he works with square fitter. And so, he works with square stuff. I work with round stuff. So, stuff. I work with round stuff. So, stuff. I work with round stuff. So, mathematics on that is totally mathematics on that is totally mathematics on that is totally different. Um, and he was a true different. Um, and he was a true different. Um, and he was a true craftsman in the iron work. And, and I craftsman in the iron work. And, and I craftsman in the iron work. And, and I always tried to do a perfectionist job always tried to do a perfectionist job always tried to do a perfectionist job in the piping side of that. So when it in the piping side of that. So when it in the piping side of that. So when it came time and I needed help, he helped came time and I needed help, he helped came time and I needed help, he helped me. And when he needed help, I helped me. And when he needed help, I helped me. And when he needed help, I helped him. And so he got me into the iron him. And so he got me into the iron him. And so he got me into the iron working and we built a new Texas tower working and we built a new Texas tower working and we built a new Texas tower out here, which it's really legendary out here, which it's really legendary out here, which it's really legendary tower out here through refinery, but tower out here through refinery, but tower out here through refinery, but » here at Holly. » here at Holly. » here at Holly. » Yes. And uh we rebuilt this thing. » Yes. And uh we rebuilt this thing. » Yes. And uh we rebuilt this thing. » Why is it called a Texas tower? » Why is it called a Texas tower? » Why is it called a Texas tower? » I can't remember what the heck the » I can't remember what the heck the » I can't remember what the heck the original I mean, it's been called The original I mean, it's been called The original I mean, it's been called The original one was the Texas tower when we original one was the Texas tower when we original one was the Texas tower when we were we were replacing it. were we were replacing it. were we were replacing it. » Everything's bigger in Texas. » Everything's bigger in Texas. » Everything's bigger in Texas. » We got the iron. They got the » We got the iron. They got the » We got the iron. They got the » piping. I knew Doris was over there » piping. I knew Doris was over there » piping. I knew Doris was over there itching. itching. itching. » What is it? » What is it? » What is it? » It's big, right? » It's big, right? » It's big, right? » Big everything's big in Texas. » Big everything's big in Texas. » Big everything's big in Texas. » So, we built this thing um across the » So, we built this thing um across the » So, we built this thing um across the unit from it and we built it in three unit from it and we built it in three unit from it and we built it in three stages and another company got the stages and another company got the stages and another company got the contract to set it and then put their contract to set it and then put their contract to set it and then put their piping in there. They fabricated. Well, piping in there. They fabricated. Well, piping in there. They fabricated. Well, they didn't pull the gags on the spring they didn't pull the gags on the spring they didn't pull the gags on the spring cans. There's stops in these spring cans. There's stops in these spring cans. There's stops in these spring cans and basically it's like a like a a and basically it's like a like a a and basically it's like a like a a spring off a train almost, you know, spring off a train almost, you know, spring off a train almost, you know, inside of a can and you have to load inside of a can and you have to load inside of a can and you have to load them up. So basically you have to put them up. So basically you have to put them up. So basically you have to put them under a load to where that spring them under a load to where that spring them under a load to where that spring starts to compress so you can pull these starts to compress so you can pull these starts to compress so you can pull these stops out of there and it's it's it's stops out of there and it's it's it's stops out of there and it's it's it's big weight and they're really super big weight and they're really super big weight and they're really super dangerous. Okay, dangerous. Okay, dangerous. Okay, » but anyways, um they set this pipe on » but anyways, um they set this pipe on » but anyways, um they set this pipe on there and they didn't load them up. So there and they didn't load them up. So there and they didn't load them up. So now there's thousands and thousands of now there's thousands and thousands of now there's thousands and thousands of pounds of piping sitting on top of these pounds of piping sitting on top of these pounds of piping sitting on top of these spring cans and they're not doing what spring cans and they're not doing what spring cans and they're not doing what they're supposed to do. And that's to they're supposed to do. And that's to they're supposed to do. And that's to take the stress off of of all your take the stress off of of all your take the stress off of of all your bolted connections, your welded bolted connections, your welded bolted connections, your welded connections, and keep your pipe from connections, and keep your pipe from connections, and keep your pipe from splitting open and killing people. So splitting open and killing people. So splitting open and killing people. So » wow. » wow. » wow. » Anyways, I got tasked to go up there and » Anyways, I got tasked to go up there and » Anyways, I got tasked to go up there and take these things out. And um where I take these things out. And um where I take these things out. And um where I was tied off at in the rack, I was up was tied off at in the rack, I was up was tied off at in the rack, I was up there like maybe 50 foot in the air. there like maybe 50 foot in the air. there like maybe 50 foot in the air. Where I was tied off at was not straight Where I was tied off at was not straight Where I was tied off at was not straight overhead. It was had to be off to the overhead. It was had to be off to the overhead. It was had to be off to the side which is sets up for a swing fall. side which is sets up for a swing fall. side which is sets up for a swing fall. So if you fall, you hit and then you So if you fall, you hit and then you So if you fall, you hit and then you swing into an object which is not a good swing into an object which is not a good swing into an object which is not a good thing to do. thing to do. thing to do. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. » But anyways, so I had a slever bar and I » But anyways, so I had a slever bar and I » But anyways, so I had a slever bar and I was prying on these things and so was prying on these things and so was prying on these things and so basically they give me a slap tear um in basically they give me a slap tear um in basically they give me a slap tear um in my in my shoulder which ripped the long my in my shoulder which ripped the long my in my shoulder which ripped the long head of my bicep off and uh messed up head of my bicep off and uh messed up head of my bicep off and uh messed up the vertebrae in my neck. And it's just the vertebrae in my neck. And it's just the vertebrae in my neck. And it's just one of those things they couldn't they one of those things they couldn't they one of those things they couldn't they repaired this. they repaired this. they repaired this. » Yeah. And they drill a hole in your » Yeah. And they drill a hole in your » Yeah. And they drill a hole in your humorous bone and put a wall anchor in humorous bone and put a wall anchor in humorous bone and put a wall anchor in there and tie it with parachute cord there and tie it with parachute cord there and tie it with parachute cord basically and do a knot and that's how basically and do a knot and that's how basically and do a knot and that's how they put your muscle back on your arm. they put your muscle back on your arm. they put your muscle back on your arm. » Wow. » Wow. » Wow. » But it just messed up my neck. » But it just messed up my neck. » But it just messed up my neck. » When I fell it it did this and then this » When I fell it it did this and then this » When I fell it it did this and then this engaged to the side cuz I hit my hit my engaged to the side cuz I hit my hit my engaged to the side cuz I hit my hit my side of my or my lanyard and so it side of my or my lanyard and so it side of my or my lanyard and so it pulled me at a weird angle and it just pulled me at a weird angle and it just pulled me at a weird angle and it just cranked my neck just wrong. And is what cranked my neck just wrong. And is what cranked my neck just wrong. And is what it is but you know it's something you it is but you know it's something you it is but you know it's something you got to deal with the rest of your life got to deal with the rest of your life got to deal with the rest of your life but I can't do that anymore. It's just but I can't do that anymore. It's just but I can't do that anymore. It's just physically Yeah, physically Yeah, physically Yeah, » it just it's not worth the pain. » it just it's not worth the pain. » it just it's not worth the pain. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. » So, had to I had to move back out into » So, had to I had to move back out into » So, had to I had to move back out into the hunting industry the hunting industry the hunting industry » and now try to make the a full income » and now try to make the a full income » and now try to make the a full income off of something I was using just a off of something I was using just a off of something I was using just a supplemental income. And so, supplemental income. And so, supplemental income. And so, » it was never the guide side was never a » it was never the guide side was never a » it was never the guide side was never a full-time. You were never planning on full-time. You were never planning on full-time. You were never planning on doing it full-time. It was always doing it full-time. It was always doing it full-time. It was always » Yeah. So, normally your full-time person » Yeah. So, normally your full-time person » Yeah. So, normally your full-time person is your owner, your outfitter, and then is your owner, your outfitter, and then is your owner, your outfitter, and then your guide is a seasonal job a your guide is a seasonal job a your guide is a seasonal job a lot of times. But you know, how do you lot of times. But you know, how do you lot of times. But you know, how do you draw an income off that without going draw an income off that without going draw an income off that without going into the consulting end of it? So, into the consulting end of it? So, into the consulting end of it? So, » so outfitter and guide are different, » so outfitter and guide are different, » so outfitter and guide are different, » correct? In a lot of times, yes, your » correct? In a lot of times, yes, your » correct? In a lot of times, yes, your outfitter is your normally your boss outfitter is your normally your boss outfitter is your normally your boss that knows that knows that knows a vague outlook of all the properties a vague outlook of all the properties a vague outlook of all the properties and your guide is one that needs to be and your guide is one that needs to be and your guide is one that needs to be specific to those areas that he is specific to those areas that he is specific to those areas that he is guiding me in. guiding me in. guiding me in. » Gotcha. Interesting. So, you were on the » Gotcha. Interesting. So, you were on the » Gotcha. Interesting. So, you were on the guide side. So now you're moving into guide side. So now you're moving into guide side. So now you're moving into like influential like influential like influential » trying to do Yeah. more of the » trying to do Yeah. more of the » trying to do Yeah. more of the consulting going looking at land setting consulting going looking at land setting consulting going looking at land setting it up for people and it up for people and it up for people and » tell them what they need to do » tell them what they need to do » tell them what they need to do differently or not do at all. differently or not do at all. differently or not do at all. » Right. Yeah. And and you've seen » Right. Yeah. And and you've seen » Right. Yeah. And and you've seen tremendous growth on TikTok uh putting tremendous growth on TikTok uh putting tremendous growth on TikTok uh putting out helpful information, funny things out helpful information, funny things out helpful information, funny things too. It's a good combo. It's like it's too. It's a good combo. It's like it's too. It's a good combo. It's like it's good info on your content and then it's good info on your content and then it's good info on your content and then it's also entertaining. Yeah. Um, so also entertaining. Yeah. Um, so also entertaining. Yeah. Um, so ultimately what's the what's the ultimately what's the what's the ultimately what's the what's the business model beyond like let's step business model beyond like let's step business model beyond like let's step away from the social media side as you away from the social media side as you away from the social media side as you try and make a go at this. What's the try and make a go at this. What's the try and make a go at this. What's the Yeah, just explain to me what a Yeah, just explain to me what a Yeah, just explain to me what a transaction looks like I guess in your transaction looks like I guess in your transaction looks like I guess in your world. world. world. » Uh, basically what we do every day for » Uh, basically what we do every day for » Uh, basically what we do every day for in the main part my main client is is in the main part my main client is is in the main part my main client is is Sun and Reality. Um Jeremy keeps me Sun and Reality. Um Jeremy keeps me Sun and Reality. Um Jeremy keeps me tremendously busy going to look at new tremendously busy going to look at new tremendously busy going to look at new properties and it's got properties and it's got properties and it's got » it's amazing, you know, to get to I mean » it's amazing, you know, to get to I mean » it's amazing, you know, to get to I mean I feel so so blessed to get to go and I feel so so blessed to get to go and I feel so so blessed to get to go and see I would not be able to see and see I would not be able to see and see I would not be able to see and the normal person is not going to be the normal person is not going to be the normal person is not going to be able to see all these beautiful private able to see all these beautiful private able to see all these beautiful private properties that we see around the state. properties that we see around the state. properties that we see around the state. Um but even outside of that, I do the Um but even outside of that, I do the Um but even outside of that, I do the same thing for the for clients. They same thing for the for clients. They same thing for the for clients. They they have questions and they may be new they have questions and they may be new they have questions and they may be new to hunting or they pick up a new to hunting or they pick up a new to hunting or they pick up a new property and hey, they've been hunting property and hey, they've been hunting property and hey, they've been hunting this one target buck for five years and this one target buck for five years and this one target buck for five years and they can't get it done. you know what do they can't get it done. you know what do they can't get it done. you know what do I do? Well, you pay me and I'll come in I do? Well, you pay me and I'll come in I do? Well, you pay me and I'll come in there and I'll take a look and I'll tell there and I'll take a look and I'll tell there and I'll take a look and I'll tell you what you're doing wrong. It's it's you what you're doing wrong. It's it's you what you're doing wrong. It's it's more like the devil's advocate. Um more like the devil's advocate. Um more like the devil's advocate. Um it's the same thing when we go to hang a it's the same thing when we go to hang a it's the same thing when we go to hang a treeand just, you know, Tyler and I treeand just, you know, Tyler and I treeand just, you know, Tyler and I hanging a tree stand together. Yes, we hanging a tree stand together. Yes, we hanging a tree stand together. Yes, we have very similar things that we do and have very similar things that we do and have very similar things that we do and that we see cuz we're together all the that we see cuz we're together all the that we see cuz we're together all the time, you know, and but just having him time, you know, and but just having him time, you know, and but just having him there when I'm thinking this tree and there when I'm thinking this tree and there when I'm thinking this tree and he's like, "Okay, why this tree?" Or he's like, "Okay, why this tree?" Or he's like, "Okay, why this tree?" Or vice versa, you know, he wants that vice versa, you know, he wants that vice versa, you know, he wants that tree. Okay, why that tree? If you go out tree. Okay, why that tree? If you go out tree. Okay, why that tree? If you go out and hang a tree stand by yourself, and hang a tree stand by yourself, and hang a tree stand by yourself, you're not going to know that's wrong you're not going to know that's wrong you're not going to know that's wrong until you're sitting there, until you're sitting there, until you're sitting there, unfortunately, going, "This is not unfortunately, going, "This is not unfortunately, going, "This is not right. I'm exposed. You know, I can get right. I'm exposed. You know, I can get right. I'm exposed. You know, I can get skylighted. They're going to bust me." skylighted. They're going to bust me." skylighted. They're going to bust me." And then this is going to be blown out. And then this is going to be blown out. And then this is going to be blown out. You know, that's where having that You know, that's where having that You know, that's where having that second person there, even if they're second person there, even if they're second person there, even if they're they're thinking the same thing as you, they're thinking the same thing as you, they're thinking the same thing as you, you just want that devil's advocate. You you just want that devil's advocate. You you just want that devil's advocate. You know, it's it's not there to argue. It's know, it's it's not there to argue. It's know, it's it's not there to argue. It's not there to make it worse. But yes, not there to make it worse. But yes, not there to make it worse. But yes, it's just that, it's just that, it's just that, » hey, you know, and I need that from time » hey, you know, and I need that from time » hey, you know, and I need that from time to time. My dad and I do that every time to time. My dad and I do that every time to time. My dad and I do that every time we go set a stand. It's It's like we're we go set a stand. It's It's like we're we go set a stand. It's It's like we're arguing. People are like, "My god, how arguing. People are like, "My god, how arguing. People are like, "My god, how do you do this? You're arguing." I'm do you do this? You're arguing." I'm do you do this? You're arguing." I'm like, "We're not arguing. We're we're like, "We're not arguing. We're we're like, "We're not arguing. We're we're playing that, you know, that client playing that, you know, that client playing that, you know, that client that's going to sit there and nitpick that's going to sit there and nitpick that's going to sit there and nitpick you. So, I'm going to go ahead and do you. So, I'm going to go ahead and do you. So, I'm going to go ahead and do get this out of the way right now. Let's get this out of the way right now. Let's get this out of the way right now. Let's just let's go ahead and do that." just let's go ahead and do that." just let's go ahead and do that." » Interesting. So, you're kind of on two » Interesting. So, you're kind of on two » Interesting. So, you're kind of on two sides of it really. you're uh helping sides of it really. you're uh helping sides of it really. you're uh helping specific situations or hunters, but then specific situations or hunters, but then specific situations or hunters, but then you're also consulting land owners or uh you're also consulting land owners or uh you're also consulting land owners or uh prospects or people selling land or you prospects or people selling land or you prospects or people selling land or you know someone representing someone know someone representing someone know someone representing someone selling land. You're scoping out the selling land. You're scoping out the selling land. You're scoping out the property, finding out what the resources property, finding out what the resources property, finding out what the resources are, what the opportunities are from a are, what the opportunities are from a are, what the opportunities are from a gaming perspective. gaming perspective. gaming perspective. » Yes. And and not and we get a lot of » Yes. And and not and we get a lot of » Yes. And and not and we get a lot of slack from people saying, "Okay, you're slack from people saying, "Okay, you're slack from people saying, "Okay, you're the problem with the market. You're the problem with the market. You're the problem with the market. You're the reason that the normal person can't reason that the normal person can't reason that the normal person can't afford that." And it's like, I'm not afford that." And it's like, I'm not afford that." And it's like, I'm not doing it that way. I'm going in to show doing it that way. I'm going in to show doing it that way. I'm going in to show you what's there. I'm not going in there you what's there. I'm not going in there you what's there. I'm not going in there to rob from somebody else, put the to rob from somebody else, put the to rob from somebody else, put the wildlife over here. We didn't wildlife over here. We didn't wildlife over here. We didn't » Just because you create more value to » Just because you create more value to » Just because you create more value to what exists doesn't mean you're what exists doesn't mean you're what exists doesn't mean you're » or or it might go the other way. You » or or it might go the other way. You » or or it might go the other way. You know, hey, you had this guy on there and know, hey, you had this guy on there and know, hey, you had this guy on there and he knows what he's doing and he he knows what he's doing and he he knows what he's doing and he couldn't provide good wildlife photos. couldn't provide good wildlife photos. couldn't provide good wildlife photos. So now I know where that wildlife's So now I know where that wildlife's So now I know where that wildlife's atage. Well, that's a good point, too, atage. Well, that's a good point, too, atage. Well, that's a good point, too, which would be a great help to like a which would be a great help to like a which would be a great help to like a land auction company like Sungrren is, land auction company like Sungrren is, land auction company like Sungrren is, you know, where to put the cams, where you know, where to put the cams, where you know, where to put the cams, where to capture and prove wildlife exists uh to capture and prove wildlife exists uh to capture and prove wildlife exists uh on that land. So, is that a lot of what on that land. So, is that a lot of what on that land. So, is that a lot of what you do on the you do on the you do on the » That is what I do. » That is what I do. » That is what I do. » Yeah. Okay, » Yeah. Okay, » Yeah. Okay, » there you go. It's all It's getting » there you go. It's all It's getting » there you go. It's all It's getting clear now. clear now. clear now. » Tyler beautifies my my photos and » Tyler beautifies my my photos and » Tyler beautifies my my photos and » Yeah. Who does your beard? » Yeah. Who does your beard? » Yeah. Who does your beard? » My beard? » My beard? » My beard? » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Who takes care of that? » Who takes care of that? » Who takes care of that? » Cap's Barber Shop does my beard right » Cap's Barber Shop does my beard right » Cap's Barber Shop does my beard right here locally. here locally. here locally. » Nice. actually trims it at the barber » Nice. actually trims it at the barber » Nice. actually trims it at the barber shop. So cool. shop. So cool. shop. So cool. » Yeah, I love caps, man. He's a good » Yeah, I love caps, man. He's a good » Yeah, I love caps, man. He's a good dude. dude. dude. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. » You get your haircut down our caps? » You get your haircut down our caps? » You get your haircut down our caps? » No, I don't. I should. All right, good » No, I don't. I should. All right, good » No, I don't. I should. All right, good to know. I don't have a I I want him to to know. I don't have a I I want him to to know. I don't have a I I want him to shave me. I don't have much to really shave me. I don't have much to really shave me. I don't have much to really do. I've always wanted to be shaved. I do. I've always wanted to be shaved. I do. I've always wanted to be shaved. I used to be shaving. He comes in and sh I used to be shaving. He comes in and sh I used to be shaving. He comes in and sh I think it was Wednesdays he used to bring think it was Wednesdays he used to bring think it was Wednesdays he used to bring it straight razor. it straight razor. it straight razor. » Does the blades razor? Yeah, that'd be » Does the blades razor? Yeah, that'd be » Does the blades razor? Yeah, that'd be fun. fun. fun. » That is cool. Lot of trust. » That is cool. Lot of trust. » That is cool. Lot of trust. » Felt like I was going to get whacked, » Felt like I was going to get whacked, » Felt like I was going to get whacked, you know, sitting there. you know, sitting there. you know, sitting there. » Yeah. Yeah. just like, "Hey, just » Yeah. Yeah. just like, "Hey, just » Yeah. Yeah. just like, "Hey, just remember there's an artery I think remember there's an artery I think remember there's an artery I think somewhere around here." somewhere around here." somewhere around here." » I almost brought my pistol in, you know, » I almost brought my pistol in, you know, » I almost brought my pistol in, you know, thinking that I was going to get shot thinking that I was going to get shot thinking that I was going to get shot up. up. up. » Pistol point. Hey, I trust you, but you » Pistol point. Hey, I trust you, but you » Pistol point. Hey, I trust you, but you know, just I want you to have some know, just I want you to have some know, just I want you to have some healthy fear about taking care of my healthy fear about taking care of my healthy fear about taking care of my life. That's amazing. Um, okay. Now, life. That's amazing. Um, okay. Now, life. That's amazing. Um, okay. Now, we're going to go back in time again. we're going to go back in time again. we're going to go back in time again. Uh, and we're going to do an experiment Uh, and we're going to do an experiment Uh, and we're going to do an experiment here that we've never done. here that we've never done. here that we've never done. » Um, but we're going to start with a a » Um, but we're going to start with a a » Um, but we're going to start with a a famous thing that happened in high famous thing that happened in high famous thing that happened in high school. And you've already uh we've school. And you've already uh we've school. And you've already uh we've already talked about this. Uh, but let's already talked about this. Uh, but let's already talked about this. Uh, but let's let's talk about the famous wrong ball let's talk about the famous wrong ball let's talk about the famous wrong ball play » and then I have a video I'm gonna throw » and then I have a video I'm gonna throw » and then I have a video I'm gonna throw up there for everybody. Not the up there for everybody. Not the up there for everybody. Not the Letterman. I did not find Oh my sorry, Letterman. I did not find Oh my sorry, Letterman. I did not find Oh my sorry, Tyler. Um, this cord is not going to Tyler. Um, this cord is not going to Tyler. Um, this cord is not going to work on that side. Uh, I did not find work on that side. Uh, I did not find work on that side. Uh, I did not find the Letterman, which I'm now spoiling the Letterman, which I'm now spoiling the Letterman, which I'm now spoiling you being on Letterman in the story, but you being on Letterman in the story, but you being on Letterman in the story, but I didn't find a good video of Scribers I didn't find a good video of Scribers I didn't find a good video of Scribers and the play, like the actual video of and the play, like the actual video of and the play, like the actual video of the play, but tell the story and then the play, but tell the story and then the play, but tell the story and then I'll throw it up there in a minute. I'll throw it up there in a minute. I'll throw it up there in a minute. » So, the wrong ball play. Uh, I think it » So, the wrong ball play. Uh, I think it » So, the wrong ball play. Uh, I think it was 1997 actually became a huge hit, not was 1997 actually became a huge hit, not was 1997 actually became a huge hit, not just locally. Um, I think it was just locally. Um, I think it was just locally. Um, I think it was actually became it was like one of actually became it was like one of actually became it was like one of ESPN's top sports plays. 1997. We were ESPN's top sports plays. 1997. We were ESPN's top sports plays. 1997. We were actually in Tempe, Arizona in a hotel actually in Tempe, Arizona in a hotel actually in Tempe, Arizona in a hotel room for the K State Fiesta Bowl that room for the K State Fiesta Bowl that room for the K State Fiesta Bowl that year. And uh, well, I can't tell the year. And uh, well, I can't tell the year. And uh, well, I can't tell the whole story. whole story. whole story. Yes. But one buddy of mine who was Yes. But one buddy of mine who was Yes. But one buddy of mine who was in there says, "Man, if you make top 10, in there says, "Man, if you make top 10, in there says, "Man, if you make top 10, I'm going to go and do something." Yeah, I'm going to go and do something." Yeah, I'm going to go and do something." Yeah, but one buddy of mine was in there but one buddy of mine was in there but one buddy of mine was in there saying » you got to mute your YouTube. You got » you got to mute your YouTube. You got YouTube live going, don't you? YouTube live going, don't you? YouTube live going, don't you? » Oops. » Oops. » Oops. » Oh, my audio is feeding in even when » Oh, my audio is feeding in even when » Oh, my audio is feeding in even when it's not there. it's not there. it's not there. » Oh yeah, good to know. » Oh yeah, good to know. » Oh yeah, good to know. » Okay, do we still have audio? » Okay, do we still have audio? » Okay, do we still have audio? » Oh yeah, it was a » Oh yeah, it was a » Oh yeah, it was a » good to know. Sorry everybody, we're » good to know. Sorry everybody, we're » good to know. Sorry everybody, we're learning. learning. learning. » So anyways, yeah, » So anyways, yeah, » So anyways, yeah, » trust me with it. » trust me with it. » trust me with it. » We were we were top 10 and uh the crime » We were we were top 10 and uh the crime » We were we were top 10 and uh the crime got committed right after that because got committed right after that because got committed right after that because of that. you know, don't don't say of that. you know, don't don't say of that. you know, don't don't say you're going to do something if you're you're going to do something if you're you're going to do something if you're not going to do it. not going to do it. not going to do it. » If you're not going to do it. Yeah. » If you're not going to do it. Yeah. » If you're not going to do it. Yeah. » Um so » Um so » Um so » anyways, um the wrong ball play, it was » anyways, um the wrong ball play, it was » anyways, um the wrong ball play, it was uh it was a play that um a woman at the uh it was a play that um a woman at the uh it was a play that um a woman at the Cassidy Grade School, uh Mrs. Anderson Cassidy Grade School, uh Mrs. Anderson Cassidy Grade School, uh Mrs. Anderson was her name, this gym teacher. Uh she was her name, this gym teacher. Uh she was her name, this gym teacher. Uh she provided this play to a to our football provided this play to a to our football provided this play to a to our football coach, Brian Spencer, that year. coach, Brian Spencer, that year. coach, Brian Spencer, that year. » Okay. I didn't remember that part of the » Okay. I didn't remember that part of the » Okay. I didn't remember that part of the story. And what did she teach? story. And what did she teach? story. And what did she teach? » She was a gym teacher. Um at the Cassidy » She was a gym teacher. Um at the Cassidy » She was a gym teacher. Um at the Cassidy back then schools were split, Cassidy back then schools were split, Cassidy back then schools were split, Cassidy and Rosa and then we didn't come and Rosa and then we didn't come and Rosa and then we didn't come together till together till together till » uh I think seventh grade but she was a » uh I think seventh grade but she was a » uh I think seventh grade but she was a sixth grade teacher I believe Mrs. sixth grade teacher I believe Mrs. sixth grade teacher I believe Mrs. Anderson but uh no she'd seen this Anderson but uh no she'd seen this Anderson but uh no she'd seen this play somewhere. she heard about this play somewhere. she heard about this play somewhere. she heard about this play and then there wasn't like there play and then there wasn't like there play and then there wasn't like there was no internet back then or was no internet back then or was no internet back then or » right I don't I don't know if the » right I don't I don't know if the » right I don't I don't know if the internet was even out then but uh anyway internet was even out then but uh anyway internet was even out then but uh anyway so she comes up with this play somehow so she comes up with this play somehow so she comes up with this play somehow tells it to Brian uh Coach Spencer and tells it to Brian uh Coach Spencer and tells it to Brian uh Coach Spencer and he comes to Daniel and I he's like and he comes to Daniel and I he's like and he comes to Daniel and I he's like hey this is what we want to do we want hey this is what we want to do we want hey this is what we want to do we want to act like we got the wrong ball in to act like we got the wrong ball in to act like we got the wrong ball in there and we you know you got a game there and we you know you got a game there and we you know you got a game ball you got your practice balls now ball you got your practice balls now ball you got your practice balls now granted you can play with a practice granted you can play with a practice granted you can play with a practice ball but nobody does replace with a ball but nobody does replace with a ball but nobody does replace with a brand new looking game ball and the only brand new looking game ball and the only brand new looking game ball and the only rules are you got to have it inspect rules are you got to have it inspect rules are you got to have it inspect your ball inspected by the ref. Um the your ball inspected by the ref. Um the your ball inspected by the ref. Um the refs at the beginning actually of the refs at the beginning actually of the refs at the beginning actually of the game they'll ask if you guys any trick game they'll ask if you guys any trick game they'll ask if you guys any trick plays or anything you need to so they plays or anything you need to so they plays or anything you need to so they don't have an inadvertent whistle. Uh don't have an inadvertent whistle. Uh don't have an inadvertent whistle. Uh the only rule was the coach could the only rule was the coach could the only rule was the coach could not interact verbally with us on the not interact verbally with us on the not interact verbally with us on the field. So field. So field. So » so the refs knew before » so the refs knew before » so the refs knew before » the refs knew they were given a heads up » the refs knew they were given a heads up » the refs knew they were given a heads up so they didn't have an inadvertent so they didn't have an inadvertent so they didn't have an inadvertent whistle on. whistle on. whistle on. » Right. That's a good call. But anyways, » Right. That's a good call. But anyways, » Right. That's a good call. But anyways, so they kicked off to us. We received I so they kicked off to us. We received I so they kicked off to us. We received I think we were sitting 20 30 yard line, think we were sitting 20 30 yard line, think we were sitting 20 30 yard line, something like that. And granted, this something like that. And granted, this something like that. And granted, this is an eightman football field, so we're is an eightman football field, so we're is an eightman football field, so we're only 80 yards long, but anyways, uh go only 80 yards long, but anyways, uh go only 80 yards long, but anyways, uh go up to the to the ball and I'm the center up to the to the ball and I'm the center up to the to the ball and I'm the center and just tell Daniel, "Hey, we got the and just tell Daniel, "Hey, we got the and just tell Daniel, "Hey, we got the wrong ball." And he's like, "What?" And wrong ball." And he's like, "What?" And wrong ball." And he's like, "What?" And I'm like, "We got the wrong ball. We got I'm like, "We got the wrong ball. We got I'm like, "We got the wrong ball. We got the practice ball." And coach on the practice ball." And coach on the practice ball." And coach on sidelines hold up the game ball like, sidelines hold up the game ball like, sidelines hold up the game ball like, "Hey dumb asses, you forgot the game "Hey dumb asses, you forgot the game "Hey dumb asses, you forgot the game ball." ball." ball." » So coach is just holding the ball, not » So coach is just holding the ball, not » So coach is just holding the ball, not actually saying anything. actually saying anything. actually saying anything. » Not saying anything. and Daniel's » Not saying anything. and Daniel's » Not saying anything. and Daniel's like, "Well, give me the ball and I'll like, "Well, give me the ball and I'll like, "Well, give me the ball and I'll take it over and switch it out." So, you take it over and switch it out." So, you take it over and switch it out." So, you know, we did a side snap um rather than know, we did a side snap um rather than know, we did a side snap um rather than going between the legs as long as it's going between the legs as long as it's going between the legs as long as it's one fluid motion. I couldn't stand up. one fluid motion. I couldn't stand up. one fluid motion. I couldn't stand up. You had to do a side snap. And that was You had to do a side snap. And that was You had to do a side snap. And that was where it was real nervous. That was for where it was real nervous. That was for where it was real nervous. That was for everybody not jumping off sides, you everybody not jumping off sides, you everybody not jumping off sides, you know, and getting this thing done. And know, and getting this thing done. And know, and getting this thing done. And uh anyway, so I give the ball to Daniel uh anyway, so I give the ball to Daniel uh anyway, so I give the ball to Daniel and he starts walking to the sidelines and he starts walking to the sidelines and he starts walking to the sidelines and now I have told this before like and now I have told this before like and now I have told this before like this, but and I just told Daniel this, but and I just told Daniel this, but and I just told Daniel this night when we did donkey basketball. Uh night when we did donkey basketball. Uh night when we did donkey basketball. Uh which by the way, don't ever do donkey which by the way, don't ever do donkey which by the way, don't ever do donkey basketball. basketball. basketball. » Talk about that. I » Talk about that. I » Talk about that. I » was still having nerve problems » was still having nerve problems » was still having nerve problems from that. from that. from that. » Yeah, but worried about your shoulder. » Yeah, but worried about your shoulder. » Yeah, but worried about your shoulder. Anyways, and I always say, you know, Anyways, and I always say, you know, Anyways, and I always say, you know, Daniel wasn't a super fast guy, but that Daniel wasn't a super fast guy, but that Daniel wasn't a super fast guy, but that night Daniel had these tube socks on night Daniel had these tube socks on night Daniel had these tube socks on that were jacked up and he has nice that were jacked up and he has nice that were jacked up and he has nice gads, you know, and uh and it so it gads, you know, and uh and it so it gads, you know, and uh and it so it makes it look like he is super fast, but makes it look like he is super fast, but makes it look like he is super fast, but Daniel's walking the sideline and just Daniel's walking the sideline and just Daniel's walking the sideline and just takes off running and it he just looks takes off running and it he just looks takes off running and it he just looks like he's, you know, just Hussein Bolt like he's, you know, just Hussein Bolt like he's, you know, just Hussein Bolt » and at that point it's just he's not » and at that point it's just he's not » and at that point it's just he's not Hussein Bolt, but Hussein Bolt, but Hussein Bolt, but » Yeah. Yeah. And they're just standing » Yeah. Yeah. And they're just standing » Yeah. Yeah. And they're just standing there like what the hell is going on there like what the hell is going on there like what the hell is going on here? But, you know, he got picked up. here? But, you know, he got picked up. here? But, you know, he got picked up. Local news got picked up. Um, magazines Local news got picked up. Um, magazines Local news got picked up. Um, magazines started coming in. Eventually, David started coming in. Eventually, David started coming in. Eventually, David Letterman show calls us, do us an Letterman show calls us, do us an Letterman show calls us, do us an interview. Uh, we had to make a video interview. Uh, we had to make a video interview. Uh, we had to make a video tape, VHS tape, you know, uh, and still tape, VHS tape, you know, uh, and still tape, VHS tape, you know, uh, and still need that, by the way. You need to find need that, by the way. You need to find need that, by the way. You need to find that and post that on. that and post that on. that and post that on. » I do have a VHS. » I do have a VHS. » I do have a VHS. » You just got to rip it digitally. I » You just got to rip it digitally. I » You just got to rip it digitally. I can't find it anywhere. So, yeah, can't find it anywhere. So, yeah, can't find it anywhere. So, yeah, continue. So, it goes well. Everybody's continue. So, it goes well. Everybody's continue. So, it goes well. Everybody's calling you. calling you. calling you. » Yeah. And eventually we go we did god we » Yeah. And eventually we go we did god we » Yeah. And eventually we go we did god we I don't know how many sports stories we I don't know how many sports stories we I don't know how many sports stories we did but then the I didn't know there was did but then the I didn't know there was did but then the I didn't know there was so many magazines in the state of Kansas so many magazines in the state of Kansas so many magazines in the state of Kansas back then even that came in interviewed back then even that came in interviewed back then even that came in interviewed us but eventually yeah we get called to us but eventually yeah we get called to us but eventually yeah we get called to the office and man I'm thinking I'm I the office and man I'm thinking I'm I the office and man I'm thinking I'm I did something I mean I'm always doing I did something I mean I'm always doing I did something I mean I'm always doing I was always doing something I just like was always doing something I just like was always doing something I just like got caught finally you know like got caught finally you know like got caught finally you know like but when I get the office and Daniel but when I get the office and Daniel but when I get the office and Daniel scrimm sit there I'm like oh now scrimm sit there I'm like oh now scrimm sit there I'm like oh now something really bad happened if something really bad happened if something really bad happened if Daniel's in the office cuz Daniel was Daniel's in the office cuz Daniel was Daniel's in the office cuz Daniel was never in the office. Yeah. never in the office. Yeah. never in the office. Yeah. » And uh yeah, it was it was a phone call. » And uh yeah, it was it was a phone call. » And uh yeah, it was it was a phone call. We had to sit there in in the We had to sit there in in the We had to sit there in in the principal's office and they called us principal's office and they called us principal's office and they called us and interviewed us over the phone and interviewed us over the phone and interviewed us over the phone and eventually, long story longer, uh we eventually, long story longer, uh we eventually, long story longer, uh we flew to New York. Limo ride everywhere. flew to New York. Limo ride everywhere. flew to New York. Limo ride everywhere. Had a limo at her dispense. It was It Had a limo at her dispense. It was It Had a limo at her dispense. It was It was It was mind-blowing. was It was mind-blowing. was It was mind-blowing. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. » But if you've never been New York, I I » But if you've never been New York, I I » But if you've never been New York, I I don't I don't suggest you go, but I don't I don't suggest you go, but I don't I don't suggest you go, but I mean, mean, mean, » just went for the first time. We talked » just went for the first time. We talked » just went for the first time. We talked about it. about it. about it. » You would have to. It's another » You would have to. It's another » You would have to. It's another world. It just really is. You know, you world. It just really is. You know, you world. It just really is. You know, you don't see the sun until it's straight don't see the sun until it's straight don't see the sun until it's straight overhead. The smells are definitely not overhead. The smells are definitely not overhead. The smells are definitely not the smells of spring flowers. the smells of spring flowers. the smells of spring flowers. » Not even close. » Not even close. » Not even close. » Did I tell you what I saw on the subway, » Did I tell you what I saw on the subway, » Did I tell you what I saw on the subway, by the way, when I was there? We were by the way, when I was there? We were by the way, when I was there? We were coming up an escalator one night. We coming up an escalator one night. We coming up an escalator one night. We went to the uh big bookstore there. Uh went to the uh big bookstore there. Uh went to the uh big bookstore there. Uh that was Strand's bookstore. Really cool that was Strand's bookstore. Really cool that was Strand's bookstore. Really cool place. I mean, it's like a crazy amount place. I mean, it's like a crazy amount place. I mean, it's like a crazy amount of books. of books. of books. » One place I did not go to. » One place I did not go to. » One place I did not go to. » Four like four floors. » Four like four floors. » Four like four floors. » Yeah. One place » Yeah. One place » Yeah. One place didn't work for me. Uh but we're coming didn't work for me. Uh but we're coming didn't work for me. Uh but we're coming up the escalator finally about back up the escalator finally about back up the escalator finally about back walking back to the hotel and on the walking back to the hotel and on the walking back to the hotel and on the other side of the escalator there's just other side of the escalator there's just other side of the escalator there's just a large uh dump like large amount a large uh dump like large amount a large uh dump like large amount of feces just stuck at the top and it's of feces just stuck at the top and it's of feces just stuck at the top and it's like if you can imagine it just keeps like if you can imagine it just keeps like if you can imagine it just keeps hitting the top and you just know it's hitting the top and you just know it's hitting the top and you just know it's glazing every step all the way down the glazing every step all the way down the glazing every step all the way down the escalator and I'm like and it did not escalator and I'm like and it did not escalator and I'm like and it did not look like an animal. I mean it looked look like an animal. I mean it looked look like an animal. I mean it looked human. Uh, so that was that'll be in my human. Uh, so that was that'll be in my human. Uh, so that was that'll be in my mind. mind. mind. » When you got to go, you got to go. » When you got to go, you got to go. » When you got to go, you got to go. » Yeah. Barely. That » Yeah. Barely. That » Yeah. Barely. That so much time, so much time, so much time, » right? I know. Yeah. Like that's it's a » right? I know. Yeah. Like that's it's a » right? I know. Yeah. Like that's it's a big escalator. Like I've never been on big escalator. Like I've never been on big escalator. Like I've never been on an escalator that big in my life. It's a an escalator that big in my life. It's a an escalator that big in my life. It's a good point though. Like most escalators good point though. Like most escalators good point though. Like most escalators like that's a quick that's a quick dump. like that's a quick that's a quick dump. like that's a quick that's a quick dump. Quick number two. Quick number two. Quick number two. » I don't I don't Yeah. I'm pretty certain » I don't I don't Yeah. I'm pretty certain » I don't I don't Yeah. I'm pretty certain all I remember is stairs when I went all I remember is stairs when I went all I remember is stairs when I went there. That's all I there. That's all I there. That's all I » Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure. Well, what » Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure. Well, what » Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure. Well, what year was that? year was that? year was that? » 97. 97 on Letterman. I You're the only » 97. 97 on Letterman. I You're the only » 97. 97 on Letterman. I You're the only person I know in real life that was on person I know in real life that was on person I know in real life that was on Letterman. Letterman. Letterman. » And it was it was it was cool. » And it was it was it was cool. » And it was it was it was cool. » So, talk about Letterman. So, then you » So, talk about Letterman. So, then you » So, talk about Letterman. So, then you go backstage, you're waiting to go on go backstage, you're waiting to go on go backstage, you're waiting to go on the show, the show, the show, » man. Yeah. I don't I've never been that » man. Yeah. I don't I've never been that » man. Yeah. I don't I've never been that nervous in my life. I I I still don't nervous in my life. I I I still don't nervous in my life. I I I still don't think I've ever been that nervous. I not think I've ever been that nervous. I not think I've ever been that nervous. I not that I ever want to do skydiving. It that I ever want to do skydiving. It that I ever want to do skydiving. It makes me nervous just watching videos makes me nervous just watching videos makes me nervous just watching videos people skydive, but that's how I imagine people skydive, but that's how I imagine people skydive, but that's how I imagine that's how nervous I was. that's how nervous I was. that's how nervous I was. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. » I didn't know if I'd be able to talk. » I didn't know if I'd be able to talk. » I didn't know if I'd be able to talk. » Yeah. You know, it wasn't until Marv » Yeah. You know, it wasn't until Marv » Yeah. You know, it wasn't until Marv Albert when we were walking on the Albert when we were walking on the Albert when we were walking on the stage. If you were in any situation, you stage. If you were in any situation, you stage. If you were in any situation, you couldn't talk. couldn't talk. couldn't talk. » Right. Right. But that was where I was. » Right. Right. But that was where I was. » Right. Right. But that was where I was. That's how nervous I was. That's how nervous I was. That's how nervous I was. » So, shots fired. shots fired. » Uh, so was there anyone famous backstage » Uh, so was there anyone famous backstage » Uh, so was there anyone famous backstage you got to talk to or you got to talk to or you got to talk to or » uh not? John Ferty was there uh that » uh not? John Ferty was there uh that » uh not? John Ferty was there uh that night. Uh, him and his hot girlfriend. night. Uh, him and his hot girlfriend. night. Uh, him and his hot girlfriend. And um and Marv Alberts, I think Marv And um and Marv Alberts, I think Marv And um and Marv Alberts, I think Marv Alberts was the one that had the smoking Alberts was the one that had the smoking Alberts was the one that had the smoking hot girlfriend back there. hot girlfriend back there. hot girlfriend back there. » Marv Albert just came off that biting » Marv Albert just came off that biting » Marv Albert just came off that biting thing, you know, where he bit some thing, you know, where he bit some thing, you know, where he bit some hooker in mass. hooker in mass. hooker in mass. » Oh gosh. » Oh gosh. » Oh gosh. » Yeah. Yeah. » Yeah. Yeah. » Yeah. Yeah. » In mass. » In mass. » In mass. » In in the ass. » In in the ass. » In in the ass. » OH MY GOD. I WAS LIKE in mass. » OH MY GOD. I WAS LIKE in mass. » OH MY GOD. I WAS LIKE in mass. » I I don't know. I don't know where it » I I don't know. I don't know where it » I I don't know. I don't know where it was at. I wasn't there. But uh yeah, he was at. I wasn't there. But uh yeah, he was at. I wasn't there. But uh yeah, he bit some hooker in the ass, I believe, bit some hooker in the ass, I believe, bit some hooker in the ass, I believe, is what it was. Got kicked off. He Marv is what it was. Got kicked off. He Marv is what it was. Got kicked off. He Marv Alberts was huge back then. He was like, Alberts was huge back then. He was like, Alberts was huge back then. He was like, you know, you know, you know, » so he's back. Are you guys like all in » so he's back. Are you guys like all in » so he's back. Are you guys like all in the same room? I've always wondered what the same room? I've always wondered what the same room? I've always wondered what it's like back there. it's like back there. it's like back there. » Well, we were in the green room and Marv » Well, we were in the green room and Marv » Well, we were in the green room and Marv, that was the longest interview Marv, that was the longest interview Marv, that was the longest interview David ever let him ever gave and I David ever let him ever gave and I David ever let him ever gave and I forgot that. So, I went from nervous as forgot that. So, I went from nervous as forgot that. So, I went from nervous as hell to, "Hey, dude, you need to hurry hell to, "Hey, dude, you need to hurry hell to, "Hey, dude, you need to hurry the hell up because the hell up because the hell up because » you're not going to get on." » you're not going to get on." » you're not going to get on." » Yeah, we we traveled all the way here » Yeah, we we traveled all the way here » Yeah, we we traveled all the way here from Ros, Kansas. Bro, we left a 100 from Ros, Kansas. Bro, we left a 100 from Ros, Kansas. Bro, we left a 100 people behind here. I'll come see you, people behind here. I'll come see you, people behind here. I'll come see you, bro. You need you need to put us on, you bro. You need you need to put us on, you bro. You need you need to put us on, you know, give us our due time here. But and know, give us our due time here. But and know, give us our due time here. But and we didn't get much time. Uh but it was we didn't get much time. Uh but it was we didn't get much time. Uh but it was cool and it was it was really cool. That cool and it was it was really cool. That cool and it was it was really cool. That Paul dude like he was like this tall is Paul dude like he was like this tall is Paul dude like he was like this tall is what it felt like. what it felt like. what it felt like. » Like he was tiny like a tic tac dude. He » Like he was tiny like a tic tac dude. He » Like he was tiny like a tic tac dude. He was like the smallest dude. He came back was like the smallest dude. He came back was like the smallest dude. He came back to meet us and make up and he was like I to meet us and make up and he was like I to meet us and make up and he was like I was like no way I I know that dude. was like no way I I know that dude. was like no way I I know that dude. So they say it's time someone comes and So they say it's time someone comes and So they say it's time someone comes and gets you and says go and then they like gets you and says go and then they like gets you and says go and then they like actually like shook our hand behind actually like shook our hand behind actually like shook our hand behind stage you know as he was coming off we stage you know as he was coming off we stage you know as he was coming off we were going on and I think that's what were going on and I think that's what were going on and I think that's what just it was like just it was like just it was like » cool man yeah dude like » cool man yeah dude like » cool man yeah dude like » just met the famous dude that bit » just met the famous dude that bit » just met the famous dude that bit stripper you know stripper you know stripper you know » not in mass » not in mass » not in mass » not in mass I don't think he was in » not in mass I don't think he was in » not in mass I don't think he was in m he might have been in mass I don't m he might have been in mass I don't m he might have been in mass I don't know hopefully not okay so you go up and know hopefully not okay so you go up and know hopefully not okay so you go up and And what questions did he ask? And what questions did he ask? And what questions did he ask? » Um, oh man, you're making me dig back in » Um, oh man, you're making me dig back in » Um, oh man, you're making me dig back in the memory bank here. the memory bank here. the memory bank here. » You know, he asked what happened. So, of » You know, he asked what happened. So, of » You know, he asked what happened. So, of course, the story starts with me cuz I'm course, the story starts with me cuz I'm course, the story starts with me cuz I'm the sinner. And I tell the story and the sinner. And I tell the story and the sinner. And I tell the story and then it's Daniel's turn to talk. And I then it's Daniel's turn to talk. And I then it's Daniel's turn to talk. And I feel horrible about this cuz I wouldn't feel horrible about this cuz I wouldn't feel horrible about this cuz I wouldn't have gone if it wasn't for Daniel's have gone if it wasn't for Daniel's have gone if it wasn't for Daniel's father dragging me along. But um yeah, father dragging me along. But um yeah, father dragging me along. But um yeah, he then he asked Daniel, "What did you he then he asked Daniel, "What did you he then he asked Daniel, "What did you do?" And Daniel goes to explain it and do?" And Daniel goes to explain it and do?" And Daniel goes to explain it and he goes, "You ran like hell. That's what he goes, "You ran like hell. That's what he goes, "You ran like hell. That's what you did. Here you go. Roll the clip." you did. Here you go. Roll the clip." you did. Here you go. Roll the clip." And I'm like, "Oh my god, this is the And I'm like, "Oh my god, this is the And I'm like, "Oh my god, this is the dude that did it all. The guy I wouldn't dude that did it all. The guy I wouldn't dude that did it all. The guy I wouldn't have been here if his dad didn't put his have been here if his dad didn't put his have been here if his dad didn't put his foot down and say, "Nah, my boy isn't foot down and say, "Nah, my boy isn't foot down and say, "Nah, my boy isn't coming unless Tylen gets to go, too." coming unless Tylen gets to go, too." coming unless Tylen gets to go, too." Um, so Um, so Um, so » Oh, that's right. I » Oh, that's right. I » Oh, that's right. I » So Daniel's whole family there and it's » So Daniel's whole family there and it's » So Daniel's whole family there and it's just me, you know, I'm the outsider, but just me, you know, I'm the outsider, but just me, you know, I'm the outsider, but third wheel there. But third wheel there. But third wheel there. But » yeah, so you did all the talking. » yeah, so you did all the talking. » yeah, so you did all the talking. » It was horrible. You know, » It was horrible. You know, » It was horrible. You know, » I doubt » I doubt » I doubt » I felt I felt bad » I felt I felt bad » I felt I felt bad » like you said last time since this is » like you said last time since this is » like you said last time since this is our second interview. You know, our second interview. You know, our second interview. You know, ultimately he's the famous one in the ultimately he's the famous one in the ultimately he's the famous one in the story. worked out, right? Like he's story. worked out, right? Like he's story. worked out, right? Like he's still » He was the quarterback. He was the guy, » He was the quarterback. He was the guy, » He was the quarterback. He was the guy, right? right? right? » I helped him. Maybe I helped him. I got » I helped him. Maybe I helped him. I got » I helped him. Maybe I helped him. I got the talking out of the way. the talking out of the way. the talking out of the way. » Could have been back. Okay, Tyler, throw » Could have been back. Okay, Tyler, throw » Could have been back. Okay, Tyler, throw it up on the screen. I I canceled all my it up on the screen. I I canceled all my it up on the screen. I I canceled all my volume. volume. volume. » Yeah, go full screen. I'm going to do » Yeah, go full screen. I'm going to do » Yeah, go full screen. I'm going to do it. it. it. » Oh, okay. Cool. » Oh, okay. Cool. » Oh, okay. Cool. » And we're just going to I killed the » And we're just going to I killed the » And we're just going to I killed the volume on it, so we can just go clip by volume on it, so we can just go clip by volume on it, so we can just go clip by clip. clip. clip. » So, there's the Scrier Boys. You've seen » So, there's the Scrier Boys. You've seen » So, there's the Scrier Boys. You've seen this one, I'm sure. The I'm not going to this one, I'm sure. The I'm not going to this one, I'm sure. The I'm not going to do the audio because we won't hear it do the audio because we won't hear it do the audio because we won't hear it and it's going to be a mess. But, I'm and it's going to be a mess. But, I'm and it's going to be a mess. But, I'm going to scroll to the play. It's pretty going to scroll to the play. It's pretty going to scroll to the play. It's pretty pixely, pixely, pixely, but here we go. So, you're in the but here we go. So, you're in the but here we go. So, you're in the center. Stand up. Hand it to Daniel. center. Stand up. Hand it to Daniel. center. Stand up. Hand it to Daniel. Right there. Right. Right there. Right. Right there. Right. » Yep. » Yep. » Yep. » You hand it to him. Then he's walking to » You hand it to him. Then he's walking to » You hand it to him. Then he's walking to the coach. Oh, that's the coach right the coach. Oh, that's the coach right the coach. Oh, that's the coach right there. Right there in the bottom center. there. Right there in the bottom center. there. Right there in the bottom center. Yeah. He's holding the ball up. Yeah. He's holding the ball up. Yeah. He's holding the ball up. » Okay. And then he takes off pretty » Okay. And then he takes off pretty » Okay. And then he takes off pretty quick. Look at those tube socks. quick. Look at those tube socks. quick. Look at those tube socks. » Oh, yeah. » That's hilarious. Wheels. » That's hilarious. Wheels. » Yeah, I bet. Yeah. Well, I mean, when » Yeah, I bet. Yeah. Well, I mean, when » Yeah, I bet. Yeah. Well, I mean, when it's going that well, you probably don't it's going that well, you probably don't it's going that well, you probably don't want to ruin it, right? Like want to ruin it, right? Like want to ruin it, right? Like » my buddy Tyson Brin here in in the » my buddy Tyson Brin here in in the » my buddy Tyson Brin here in in the yellow slicker. yellow slicker. yellow slicker. » Yeah. Yeah. Right there. » Yeah. Yeah. Right there. » Yeah. Yeah. Right there. » Don't have Cowboys on your sidelines » Don't have Cowboys on your sidelines » Don't have Cowboys on your sidelines most of the time. But Tyson, he was he most of the time. But Tyson, he was he most of the time. But Tyson, he was he was pretty proud of himself there. was pretty proud of himself there. was pretty proud of himself there. Everybody sees this yellow. Everybody sees this yellow. Everybody sees this yellow. » Oh, that's true. He's like, I'm the guy » Oh, that's true. He's like, I'm the guy » Oh, that's true. He's like, I'm the guy in the yellow. in the yellow. in the yellow. » I'm the guy. » I'm the guy. » I'm the guy. » That is real. Was it like a onesie? Like » That is real. Was it like a onesie? Like » That is real. Was it like a onesie? Like it looks like it's all one piece. it looks like it's all one piece. it looks like it's all one piece. » It's a slerger. It's a drover scoop. » It's a slerger. It's a drover scoop. » It's a slerger. It's a drover scoop. » Yeah. Yeah. here. This might get a » Yeah. Yeah. here. This might get a » Yeah. Yeah. here. This might get a better view of him once he comes over. better view of him once he comes over. better view of him once he comes over. Yeah. So, he's just walking. So, you Yeah. So, he's just walking. So, you Yeah. So, he's just walking. So, you guys on the line can't move, right? guys on the line can't move, right? guys on the line can't move, right? » Well, you have to stay. » Well, you have to stay. » Well, you have to stay. » It's already actually went in motion. » It's already actually went in motion. » It's already actually went in motion. So, we can actually stand up at this So, we can actually stand up at this So, we can actually stand up at this point in time because the ball has been point in time because the ball has been point in time because the ball has been snapped legally. snapped legally. snapped legally. » He does a little » He does a little » He does a little » Everybody's Yeah. Well, that cracks me » Everybody's Yeah. Well, that cracks me » Everybody's Yeah. Well, that cracks me up, too, cuz he didn't like I feel like up, too, cuz he didn't like I feel like up, too, cuz he didn't like I feel like he could have walked a little longer. he could have walked a little longer. he could have walked a little longer. » Oh, yeah. Yeah. » Oh, yeah. Yeah. » Oh, yeah. Yeah. » The anticipation was pretty high. » The anticipation was pretty high. » The anticipation was pretty high. » Oh, yeah. I bet there's a lot of nerves » Oh, yeah. I bet there's a lot of nerves » Oh, yeah. I bet there's a lot of nerves right there. And then there he goes, right there. And then there he goes, right there. And then there he goes, » man. They Oh, they just start blocking » man. They Oh, they just start blocking » man. They Oh, they just start blocking you guys, too. They didn't even like you guys, too. They didn't even like you guys, too. They didn't even like » Yeah, they had no clue. » Yeah, they had no clue. » Yeah, they had no clue. » They didn't even see him. » They didn't even see him. » They didn't even see him. » What are they blocking for » What are they blocking for » What are they blocking for » trying to tackle him? » trying to tackle him? » trying to tackle him? » We were trying not to block cuz I didn't » We were trying not to block cuz I didn't » We were trying not to block cuz I didn't want to clip him. want to clip him. want to clip him. » So, I mean, why they were trying to » So, I mean, why they were trying to » So, I mean, why they were trying to penetrate » cuz our line our line finally think, you » cuz our line our line finally think, you » cuz our line our line finally think, you know, we're going to get something out know, we're going to get something out know, we're going to get something out of this, of this, of this, » right? Yeah. We're going to hit » right? Yeah. We're going to hit » right? Yeah. We're going to hit somebody. somebody. somebody. » Start jacking people. » Start jacking people. » Start jacking people. » What was this team that you embarrassed » What was this team that you embarrassed » What was this team that you embarrassed to? Oh man, I think it was uh Oak to? Oh man, I think it was uh Oak to? Oh man, I think it was uh Oak Valley. I think Valley. I think Valley. I think » El Valley. It'd be worth I mean » El Valley. It'd be worth I mean » El Valley. It'd be worth I mean » what a great story, but to be on the » what a great story, but to be on the » what a great story, but to be on the other side of it, man. Like famous for, other side of it, man. Like famous for, other side of it, man. Like famous for, you know, being the victim of a trick you know, being the victim of a trick you know, being the victim of a trick play, that's tough. play, that's tough. play, that's tough. » Yes. And and we found out that there was » Yes. And and we found out that there was » Yes. And and we found out that there was actually another uh another Kansas actually another uh another Kansas actually another uh another Kansas school. They were in one of our school. They were in one of our school. They were in one of our districts. I think they were in our districts. I think they were in our districts. I think they were in our forensics districts was where I was at a forensics districts was where I was at a forensics districts was where I was at a forensics meet when they were telling me forensics meet when they were telling me forensics meet when they were telling me this, but they ran the same play that this, but they ran the same play that this, but they ran the same play that same night. same night. same night. » Okay. And they had a camera crew there, » Okay. And they had a camera crew there, » Okay. And they had a camera crew there, a news crew they had called to come do a news crew they had called to come do a news crew they had called to come do it and they didn't have the video camera it and they didn't have the video camera it and they didn't have the video camera set up in time. set up in time. set up in time. » Oh, really? » Oh, really? » Oh, really? » So, yeah. I mean, what's the odds of two » So, yeah. I mean, what's the odds of two » So, yeah. I mean, what's the odds of two schools in Kansas? You They weren't that schools in Kansas? You They weren't that schools in Kansas? You They weren't that far from us in the same play that night, far from us in the same play that night, far from us in the same play that night, you know. you know. you know. » Oh, the same night. » Oh, the same night. » Oh, the same night. » Yeah, the same night. The same play. » Yeah, the same night. The same play. » Yeah, the same night. The same play. » Who leaked it? You know, » Who leaked it? You know, » Who leaked it? You know, » I um » I um » I um » there's a leak there's a leak out of » there's a leak there's a leak out of » there's a leak there's a leak out of Flint Hills there. Flint Hills there. Flint Hills there. » Yeah. I don't know. I I don't I don't » Yeah. I don't know. I I don't I don't » Yeah. I don't know. I I don't I don't know where the where the play originated know where the where the play originated know where the where the play originated from, you know. I don't know if it was from, you know. I don't know if it was from, you know. I don't know if it was on TV or or what it was, if somebody ran on TV or or what it was, if somebody ran on TV or or what it was, if somebody ran it locally and it just got through the it locally and it just got through the it locally and it just got through the rumor mill and back to us. I I have no rumor mill and back to us. I I have no rumor mill and back to us. I I have no clue where that originated, but clue where that originated, but clue where that originated, but » All right, let's jump into another » All right, let's jump into another » All right, let's jump into another topic. Um, honestly, my cuz I'm not topic. Um, honestly, my cuz I'm not topic. Um, honestly, my cuz I'm not a hunter. My favorite thing you put out a hunter. My favorite thing you put out a hunter. My favorite thing you put out contentwise on the Hunter's Helper is contentwise on the Hunter's Helper is contentwise on the Hunter's Helper is 100% about plants. Like, okay, I 100% about plants. Like, okay, I 100% about plants. Like, okay, I love that your foraging. So, let's talk love that your foraging. So, let's talk love that your foraging. So, let's talk about that. Your love for that. When did about that. Your love for that. When did about that. Your love for that. When did that start? that start? that start? » Man, when I was a kid, my mother was » Man, when I was a kid, my mother was » Man, when I was a kid, my mother was always into herbs and trying to teach me always into herbs and trying to teach me always into herbs and trying to teach me stuff about that just out in nature. stuff about that just out in nature. stuff about that just out in nature. Just, Just, Just, » you know, I don't know when, you know, » you know, I don't know when, you know, » you know, I don't know when, you know, when did you start breathing? You know, when did you start breathing? You know, when did you start breathing? You know, it's just one of those things for me. I it's just one of those things for me. I it's just one of those things for me. I » don't remember. I just You're right. It » don't remember. I just You're right. It » don't remember. I just You're right. It just you just did. It's that's just you just did. It's that's just you just did. It's that's what my mom said breathing. She said what my mom said breathing. She said what my mom said breathing. She said just I just figured it out real quick. just I just figured it out real quick. just I just figured it out real quick. » Yeah. It was just one of those things » Yeah. It was just one of those things » Yeah. It was just one of those things where it just I I I don't know. It just, where it just I I I don't know. It just, where it just I I I don't know. It just, » you know, now granted Jeremy Sun is » you know, now granted Jeremy Sun is » you know, now granted Jeremy Sun is amazing with his identification of of amazing with his identification of of amazing with his identification of of native plants and flowers and native plants and flowers and native plants and flowers and native. He He's big about native and native. He He's big about native and native. He He's big about native and wanting to turn pastures back native, wanting to turn pastures back native, wanting to turn pastures back native, turn ground back native. Um, which turn ground back native. Um, which turn ground back native. Um, which » yeah, native is no joke. I went to a » yeah, native is no joke. I went to a » yeah, native is no joke. I went to a place over by uh can't remember now, place over by uh can't remember now, place over by uh can't remember now, probably uh just past Cassidy. There's probably uh just past Cassidy. There's probably uh just past Cassidy. There's uh some native grass. There's some uh some native grass. There's some uh some native grass. There's some trails over there you can walk um just trails over there you can walk um just trails over there you can walk um just past that little lake over there when past that little lake over there when past that little lake over there when you go uh I don't know what direction, you go uh I don't know what direction, you go uh I don't know what direction, doesn't matter, but there's like these doesn't matter, but there's like these doesn't matter, but there's like these trails you can go through and they've trails you can go through and they've trails you can go through and they've got like signs up and they show you how got like signs up and they show you how got like signs up and they show you how deep native grassroots go. deep native grassroots go. deep native grassroots go. » That's nuts. » That's nuts. » That's nuts. » Yeah. Like 6 foot. » Yeah. Like 6 foot. » Yeah. Like 6 foot. » Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. They don't get » Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. They don't get » Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. They don't get that tall. that tall. that tall. » Yeah. And that's what cracks me up when » Yeah. And that's what cracks me up when » Yeah. And that's what cracks me up when people Well, and they just don't know. people Well, and they just don't know. people Well, and they just don't know. Uh but they're like, I want to dig this Uh but they're like, I want to dig this Uh but they're like, I want to dig this up. And it's like, don't up. And it's like, don't up. And it's like, don't » Good luck. » Good luck. » Good luck. » Yeah. you're gonna be here a while, you » Yeah. you're gonna be here a while, you » Yeah. you're gonna be here a while, you know, especially in our in our soil, you know, especially in our in our soil, you know, especially in our in our soil, you know, especially at East, you know, know, especially at East, you know, know, especially at East, you know, digging. But I had a woman here a while digging. But I had a woman here a while digging. But I had a woman here a while back say something about digging up an back say something about digging up an back say something about digging up an asparagus plant and it's like, you might asparagus plant and it's like, you might asparagus plant and it's like, you might want to watch a YouTube video on that want to watch a YouTube video on that want to watch a YouTube video on that because the only one time, the only one because the only one time, the only one because the only one time, the only one video I can think of, this dude dug one video I can think of, this dude dug one video I can think of, this dude dug one up in sand, complete sand, and he was at up in sand, complete sand, and he was at up in sand, complete sand, and he was at least 6 foot deep, but I want to say he least 6 foot deep, but I want to say he least 6 foot deep, but I want to say he was about 6 foot wide was about 6 foot wide was about 6 foot wide » for the roots of of mature asparagus » for the roots of of mature asparagus » for the roots of of mature asparagus plant. plant. plant. » Wow. you know, so don't try to dig them » Wow. you know, so don't try to dig them » Wow. you know, so don't try to dig them up. Just get the seeds, do the proper up. Just get the seeds, do the proper up. Just get the seeds, do the proper steps, and plant one. steps, and plant one. steps, and plant one. » Uh I saw the video of you guys uh trying » Uh I saw the video of you guys uh trying » Uh I saw the video of you guys uh trying to find like spearheads, arrow heads. to find like spearheads, arrow heads. to find like spearheads, arrow heads. Jeremy was in that one. You guys were Jeremy was in that one. You guys were Jeremy was in that one. You guys were trying to identify them and it was trying to identify them and it was trying to identify them and it was cracking me up cuz you had you were cracking me up cuz you had you were cracking me up cuz you had you were having such a hard time seeing them. having such a hard time seeing them. having such a hard time seeing them. You're like, I was just looking there You're like, I was just looking there You're like, I was just looking there and you just grab one. and you just grab one. and you just grab one. » I It's just an eye for you, you know, » I It's just an eye for you, you know, » I It's just an eye for you, you know, and I don't have that. and I don't have that. and I don't have that. » Jeremy is definitely the Indian artifact » Jeremy is definitely the Indian artifact » Jeremy is definitely the Indian artifact guy in this group. So guy in this group. So guy in this group. So » yeah, I've seen his table. It's really » yeah, I've seen his table. It's really » yeah, I've seen his table. It's really cool. All the stuff they found. That's cool. All the stuff they found. That's cool. All the stuff they found. That's wild. wild. wild. » He's got stuff laying outside on his » He's got stuff laying outside on his » He's got stuff laying outside on his retaining wall that is better than my retaining wall that is better than my retaining wall that is better than my stuff that I have mounted, you know. » Uh so, so talk about foraging. Um I » Uh so, so talk about foraging. Um I heard it was a bad mushroom season. heard it was a bad mushroom season. heard it was a bad mushroom season. » It was for me in our area. » It was for me in our area. » It was for me in our area. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. » You know, somebody might have hit it » You know, somebody might have hit it » You know, somebody might have hit it good, but yeah, it was just it was bad. good, but yeah, it was just it was bad. good, but yeah, it was just it was bad. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Um for the morel mushrooms. » Um for the morel mushrooms. » Um for the morel mushrooms. » Morels specifically. Uh what's your » Morels specifically. Uh what's your » Morels specifically. Uh what's your favorite mushroom? Is that is that your favorite mushroom? Is that is that your favorite mushroom? Is that is that your favorite thing to forge for? favorite thing to forge for? favorite thing to forge for? » Probably not. Probably not. I I I like » Probably not. Probably not. I I I like » Probably not. Probably not. I I I like the oyster mushroom. It's it's it's the oyster mushroom. It's it's it's the oyster mushroom. It's it's it's really easy to find. It's really easy to really easy to find. It's really easy to really easy to find. It's really easy to identify. Um there's not a whole lot of identify. Um there's not a whole lot of identify. Um there's not a whole lot of counter poisonous counterparts in our counter poisonous counterparts in our counter poisonous counterparts in our area for that mushroom. There are some area for that mushroom. There are some area for that mushroom. There are some um but um but um but » caveat we need to put a little » caveat we need to put a little » caveat we need to put a little » and please don't watch one of my videos » and please don't watch one of my videos » and please don't watch one of my videos and think, okay, that's the mushroom and think, okay, that's the mushroom and think, okay, that's the mushroom that you seen and you go and do that. that you seen and you go and do that. that you seen and you go and do that. Don't don't do that. Okay? dig a Don't don't do that. Okay? dig a Don't don't do that. Okay? dig a little deeper, learn it, you know, do a little deeper, learn it, you know, do a little deeper, learn it, you know, do a small print, stuff like that, and small print, stuff like that, and small print, stuff like that, and properly identify. And they always say properly identify. And they always say properly identify. And they always say one mushroom at a time. Um I I watched a one mushroom at a time. Um I I watched a one mushroom at a time. Um I I watched a woman here yesterday. She said, you woman here yesterday. She said, you woman here yesterday. She said, you know, have an idea what you're going know, have an idea what you're going know, have an idea what you're going after before you go out there to do it. after before you go out there to do it. after before you go out there to do it. Don't just go out and walk around Don't just go out and walk around Don't just go out and walk around aimlessly and think that's the aimlessly and think that's the aimlessly and think that's the mushroom you found. There are growing mushroom you found. There are growing mushroom you found. There are growing mediums. There are certain, you know, mediums. There are certain, you know, mediums. There are certain, you know, some grow in soil, some grow off dead some grow in soil, some grow off dead some grow in soil, some grow off dead trees, you know, some grow between this trees, you know, some grow between this trees, you know, some grow between this humidity and this humidity, some grow humidity and this humidity, some grow humidity and this humidity, some grow off to soil temperature, some grow off to soil temperature, some grow off to soil temperature, some grow off ambient temperature. There's there's a ambient temperature. There's there's a ambient temperature. There's there's a lot of different variables there. Um lot of different variables there. Um lot of different variables there. Um there's just too many to go over there's just too many to go over there's just too many to go over actually. But actually. But actually. But » so morale soil temp, talk about that. We » so morale soil temp, talk about that. We » so morale soil temp, talk about that. We talked about talked about talked about » morell soil temperature, that's all that » morell soil temperature, that's all that » morell soil temperature, that's all that really matters when it comes to morelss, really matters when it comes to morelss, really matters when it comes to morelss, guys. Don't I and I'm going to get guys. Don't I and I'm going to get guys. Don't I and I'm going to get bashed on this, but that's fine. I've bashed on this, but that's fine. I've bashed on this, but that's fine. I've done been doing this for a while. Um it done been doing this for a while. Um it done been doing this for a while. Um it rain it doesn't have a whole lot to do rain it doesn't have a whole lot to do rain it doesn't have a whole lot to do with it. Um yes you need water for with it. Um yes you need water for with it. Um yes you need water for humidity but you don't need rain. Uh humidity but you don't need rain. Uh humidity but you don't need rain. Uh some of my best years are in drought some of my best years are in drought some of my best years are in drought years » really. » really. » really. » Yeah. And you throw rain into it. So » Yeah. And you throw rain into it. So » Yeah. And you throw rain into it. So fungi does not like water. It it it it fungi does not like water. It it it it fungi does not like water. It it it it likes humidity. It doesn't like to be likes humidity. It doesn't like to be likes humidity. It doesn't like to be wet. They don't like to have their feet wet. They don't like to have their feet wet. They don't like to have their feet wet so to say. And water sandy water wet so to say. And water sandy water wet so to say. And water sandy water will actually kill the mcelium which will actually kill the mcelium which will actually kill the mcelium which produces the fruit produces the fruit produces the fruit » which is the mushroom. » which is the mushroom. » which is the mushroom. » Interesting. You know, there's there's a » Interesting. You know, there's there's a » Interesting. You know, there's there's a whole bunch to it. whole bunch to it. whole bunch to it. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. » I mean, you don't have time. I don't » I mean, you don't have time. I don't » I mean, you don't have time. I don't have time to to go have time to to go have time to to go » Well, and there's there's a lot of uh » Well, and there's there's a lot of uh » Well, and there's there's a lot of uh there's there's money in that, there's there's money in that, there's there's money in that, especially in the seasonal ones where especially in the seasonal ones where especially in the seasonal ones where people are doing that. I I saw a video people are doing that. I I saw a video people are doing that. I I saw a video uh Zack Galifanakis, is that how you say uh Zack Galifanakis, is that how you say uh Zack Galifanakis, is that how you say his name? He just launched. You should his name? He just launched. You should his name? He just launched. You should go watch this. It's hilarious. On go watch this. It's hilarious. On go watch this. It's hilarious. On Netflix, uh a gardening show. It's it's Netflix, uh a gardening show. It's it's Netflix, uh a gardening show. It's it's he's the guy who did the Between Two he's the guy who did the Between Two he's the guy who did the Between Two Ferns. Ferns. Ferns. » I mean, he's he's in Hangover and all » I mean, he's he's in Hangover and all » I mean, he's he's in Hangover and all the hangovers. hilarious dude. But I the hangovers. hilarious dude. But I the hangovers. hilarious dude. But I mean it is one of the funniest like you mean it is one of the funniest like you mean it is one of the funniest like you can tell he's super interested but he's can tell he's super interested but he's can tell he's super interested but he's just a funny dude. Like he's just a funny dude. Like he's just a funny dude. Like he's just watched a little bit of the other day. watched a little bit of the other day. watched a little bit of the other day. » Yeah. And they're like 16minute episodes » Yeah. And they're like 16minute episodes » Yeah. And they're like 16minute episodes and uh he goes out with some foragers. I and uh he goes out with some foragers. I and uh he goes out with some foragers. I haven't finished it yet but that was haven't finished it yet but that was haven't finished it yet but that was like episode three or four. And he's out like episode three or four. And he's out like episode three or four. And he's out there and they're just like filling up there and they're just like filling up there and they're just like filling up bags and identifying things and it was bags and identifying things and it was bags and identifying things and it was really funny. You have to check that really funny. You have to check that really funny. You have to check that out. But these people, this couple that out. But these people, this couple that out. But these people, this couple that does it, I mean, they'll go grab their does it, I mean, they'll go grab their does it, I mean, they'll go grab their goal is every day they're grabbing goal is every day they're grabbing goal is every day they're grabbing hundreds of pounds and it's like that's hundreds of pounds and it's like that's hundreds of pounds and it's like that's their business. They do it every day. their business. They do it every day. their business. They do it every day. They they wherever they live. I can't They they wherever they live. I can't They they wherever they live. I can't remember where it was shot at, remember where it was shot at, remember where it was shot at, » but like that's what they do. So, I I » but like that's what they do. So, I I » but like that's what they do. So, I I never thought about that, but is there never thought about that, but is there never thought about that, but is there people that kind of do that full-time? people that kind of do that full-time? people that kind of do that full-time? Yes. Yes. Yes. » And they go to like farmers markets, » And they go to like farmers markets, » And they go to like farmers markets, restaurants, they have like a pretty big restaurants, they have like a pretty big restaurants, they have like a pretty big customer list customer list customer list » uh across the board, but there's » uh across the board, but there's » uh across the board, but there's probably just certain places you can do probably just certain places you can do probably just certain places you can do that. I'm sure you can't do that in that. I'm sure you can't do that in that. I'm sure you can't do that in Kansas. Kansas. Kansas. » Yeah. You know, it like I said, that » Yeah. You know, it like I said, that » Yeah. You know, it like I said, that goes back to the environment and, you goes back to the environment and, you goes back to the environment and, you know, having a a dense forest. There's a know, having a a dense forest. There's a know, having a a dense forest. There's a lot of guys that I watch that go on lot of guys that I watch that go on lot of guys that I watch that go on mushroom hikes and stuff. They will show mushroom hikes and stuff. They will show mushroom hikes and stuff. They will show you six different type of mushrooms. you six different type of mushrooms. you six different type of mushrooms. They're They're They're » the conditions are just way different » the conditions are just way different » the conditions are just way different than ours, than ours, than ours, » and that's that's exactly what it is, » and that's that's exactly what it is, » and that's that's exactly what it is, right? It's it's just that environment. right? It's it's just that environment. right? It's it's just that environment. But lowlying areas that you know, But lowlying areas that you know, But lowlying areas that you know, pressure holds that humidity down in pressure holds that humidity down in pressure holds that humidity down in those lowlining areas. So even on those lowlining areas. So even on those lowlining areas. So even on a drought year, you know, you got a drought year, you know, you got a drought year, you know, you got moisture. It's just people fail to think moisture. It's just people fail to think moisture. It's just people fail to think about it. It's not corn. They didn't about it. It's not corn. They didn't about it. It's not corn. They didn't need water to grow. need water to grow. need water to grow. » It needs a certain soil temperature and » It needs a certain soil temperature and » It needs a certain soil temperature and it'll pop. it'll pop. it'll pop. » Interesting. Why I feel like it's » Interesting. Why I feel like it's » Interesting. Why I feel like it's such a uh Oh, what's his name? Um he was such a uh Oh, what's his name? Um he was such a uh Oh, what's his name? Um he was on Rogan. He was talking about just the on Rogan. He was talking about just the on Rogan. He was talking about just the power all the research they're doing and power all the research they're doing and power all the research they're doing and case studies. Now they got peer-reviewed case studies. Now they got peer-reviewed case studies. Now they got peer-reviewed stuff about mushrooms healing and you stuff about mushrooms healing and you stuff about mushrooms healing and you know solving problems for people and know solving problems for people and know solving problems for people and it's obviously a weird deal cuz it's not it's obviously a weird deal cuz it's not it's obviously a weird deal cuz it's not there's no money in it right so I I feel there's no money in it right so I I feel there's no money in it right so I I feel like anything in the realm of natural like anything in the realm of natural like anything in the realm of natural healing is getting you know I I just healing is getting you know I I just healing is getting you know I I just don't think there's as much going into don't think there's as much going into don't think there's as much going into it cuz it's not a pill in a bottle it cuz it's not a pill in a bottle it cuz it's not a pill in a bottle that's a thousand% markup right like that's a thousand% markup right like that's a thousand% markup right like it's different there but it's different there but it's different there but » how much have you seen that evolve over » how much have you seen that evolve over » how much have you seen that evolve over the last you know 10 15 years of the last you know 10 15 years of the last you know 10 15 years of people's understanding ing of I mean people's understanding ing of I mean people's understanding ing of I mean even mushroom coffee. Do you drink any even mushroom coffee. Do you drink any even mushroom coffee. Do you drink any of the mushroom coffee? of the mushroom coffee? of the mushroom coffee? » I do. I do drink mushroom coffee. In » I do. I do drink mushroom coffee. In » I do. I do drink mushroom coffee. In fact, we just had a mushroom coffee fact, we just had a mushroom coffee fact, we just had a mushroom coffee manufacturer hit us up the other day. manufacturer hit us up the other day. manufacturer hit us up the other day. They're going to send us some. So, when They're going to send us some. So, when They're going to send us some. So, when we get it in, we'll bring it over and we get it in, we'll bring it over and we get it in, we'll bring it over and let you guys try some of it. But let you guys try some of it. But let you guys try some of it. But » I love that. I I had my first cup from I » I love that. I I had my first cup from I » I love that. I I had my first cup from I can't even remember who gave it to me can't even remember who gave it to me can't even remember who gave it to me the other day and it was good. the other day and it was good. the other day and it was good. » Yeah, » Yeah, » Yeah, » there's Yeah, » there's Yeah, » there's Yeah, » it was subtle. Like I mean, I definitely » it was subtle. Like I mean, I definitely » it was subtle. Like I mean, I definitely get more shakes from coffee. Um but get more shakes from coffee. Um but get more shakes from coffee. Um but that's probably the whole point, right? that's probably the whole point, right? that's probably the whole point, right? It's like steady. It's like steady. It's like steady. » Yes. Um, but yeah, it's what I've » Yes. Um, but yeah, it's what I've » Yes. Um, but yeah, it's what I've noticed on my mushroom coffee. There's noticed on my mushroom coffee. There's noticed on my mushroom coffee. There's no crash. no crash. no crash. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. » You know, it gets you going for sure, » You know, it gets you going for sure, » You know, it gets you going for sure, but it just doesn't crash. But a lot of but it just doesn't crash. But a lot of but it just doesn't crash. But a lot of the u, you know, like lion's mane, the u, you know, like lion's mane, the u, you know, like lion's mane, lion's mane is a, it's great for your lion's mane is a, it's great for your lion's mane is a, it's great for your brain, um, your memory. If you take a brain, um, your memory. If you take a brain, um, your memory. If you take a certain percentage of it, which is not certain percentage of it, which is not certain percentage of it, which is not normally the percentage that's in your normally the percentage that's in your normally the percentage that's in your coffee, that's normally like a daily coffee, that's normally like a daily coffee, that's normally like a daily dose, but if you take a higher dose, but if you take a higher dose, but if you take a higher percentage of of of percentage of of of percentage of of of lion's mane mushroom, you can't forget lion's mane mushroom, you can't forget lion's mane mushroom, you can't forget anything. Yeah. It's I mean your memory anything. Yeah. It's I mean your memory anything. Yeah. It's I mean your memory is like laser focused. Like phone is like laser focused. Like phone is like laser focused. Like phone numbers are horrible for me to remember. numbers are horrible for me to remember. numbers are horrible for me to remember. Names are horrible for me to Names are horrible for me to Names are horrible for me to remember. remember. remember. » I'm Sam by the way. » I'm Sam by the way. » I'm Sam by the way. » Yeah. Appreciate you. But you on on » Yeah. Appreciate you. But you on on » Yeah. Appreciate you. But you on on Lion's M you can't forget. I mean Lion's M you can't forget. I mean Lion's M you can't forget. I mean someone tells you a phone number and someone tells you a phone number and someone tells you a phone number and it's like I don't need to write that it's like I don't need to write that it's like I don't need to write that down. I can repeat it right now. And down. I can repeat it right now. And down. I can repeat it right now. And it's like how does that work? it's like how does that work? it's like how does that work? » Yeah. Yeah. It's wild. The music I » Yeah. Yeah. It's wild. The music I » Yeah. Yeah. It's wild. The music I talked about this last time. I also I talked about this last time. I also I talked about this last time. I also I played it for someone the other day and played it for someone the other day and played it for someone the other day and they're like that's weird. But they'll they're like that's weird. But they'll they're like that's weird. But they'll actually put like needles and probes and actually put like needles and probes and actually put like needles and probes and mushrooms different. And then they have mushrooms different. And then they have mushrooms different. And then they have songs for each because like what's the songs for each because like what's the songs for each because like what's the what's the you just said it? what's the you just said it? what's the you just said it? » The mcelium how it all connects » The mcelium how it all connects » The mcelium how it all connects essentially is like essentially is like essentially is like » it's like networking. It's like a » it's like networking. It's like a » it's like networking. It's like a network, right? And it's like network, right? And it's like network, right? And it's like communication and you put in they'll communication and you put in they'll communication and you put in they'll basically put in these probes and I basically put in these probes and I basically put in these probes and I don't know how they determine like what don't know how they determine like what don't know how they determine like what a frequency what sound it should make. a frequency what sound it should make. a frequency what sound it should make. » Sure they manipulate that but it it's » Sure they manipulate that but it it's » Sure they manipulate that but it it's pretty cool. People should look that up. pretty cool. People should look that up. pretty cool. People should look that up. You go to YouTube and people will You go to YouTube and people will You go to YouTube and people will basically have like a soundboard and basically have like a soundboard and basically have like a soundboard and they're mixing music pulling frequency. they're mixing music pulling frequency. they're mixing music pulling frequency. » Yeah. The best example of it's Avatar. » Yeah. The best example of it's Avatar. » Yeah. The best example of it's Avatar. That movie Avatar when they're walking That movie Avatar when they're walking That movie Avatar when they're walking » and you see the you see the lights under » and you see the you see the lights under » and you see the you see the lights under the ground and that's that's the ground and that's that's the ground and that's that's the representation of mycelium and how representation of mycelium and how representation of mycelium and how it it it » how it corresponds with everything » how it corresponds with everything » how it corresponds with everything » and they say like we have more in » and they say like we have more in » and they say like we have more in similar to mushrooms than anything else. similar to mushrooms than anything else. similar to mushrooms than anything else. » So yeah, right. » So yeah, right. » So yeah, right. » You talked about that last time. » You talked about that last time. » You talked about that last time. » Yes. Fascinating. It it blows your mind. » Yes. Fascinating. It it blows your mind. » Yes. Fascinating. It it blows your mind. Uh, fungi is is crazy. But no, like so a Uh, fungi is is crazy. But no, like so a Uh, fungi is is crazy. But no, like so a branch on a tree breaks off. Just say branch on a tree breaks off. Just say branch on a tree breaks off. Just say this. Okay. So you have a healthy this. Okay. So you have a healthy this. Okay. So you have a healthy tree over here that has um I healthy tree over here that has um I healthy tree over here that has um I said asparagus, but morel mycelium said asparagus, but morel mycelium said asparagus, but morel mycelium that's living and it's not going to that's living and it's not going to that's living and it's not going to fruit that year because it's there's no fruit that year because it's there's no fruit that year because it's there's no stress to that tree. There's no stress to that tree. There's no stress to that tree. There's no stress to the mycelium. It doesn't sense that to the mycelium. It doesn't sense that to the mycelium. It doesn't sense that it's losing its food source. This tree it's losing its food source. This tree it's losing its food source. This tree branch over here breaks off and slaps branch over here breaks off and slaps branch over here breaks off and slaps that ground. Just gives it a shock wave. that ground. Just gives it a shock wave. that ground. Just gives it a shock wave. They say that it it can actually flush They say that it it can actually flush They say that it it can actually flush out mushrooms. out mushrooms. out mushrooms. » Interesting. So So the mushroom » Interesting. So So the mushroom » Interesting. So So the mushroom which is like the fruit, right? And which is like the fruit, right? And which is like the fruit, right? And it only does that when it's at risk it only does that when it's at risk it only does that when it's at risk essentially or essentially or essentially or » So it depends on what it is. So okay, so » So it depends on what it is. So okay, so » So it depends on what it is. So okay, so an oyster mushroom is a decaying an oyster mushroom is a decaying an oyster mushroom is a decaying mushroom. It's actually consuming lion's mushroom. It's actually consuming lion's mushroom. It's actually consuming lion's mane. Same thing. It's consuming that mane. Same thing. It's consuming that mane. Same thing. It's consuming that tree. It's actually eating the organic tree. It's actually eating the organic tree. It's actually eating the organic matter of that tree. That's its food matter of that tree. That's its food matter of that tree. That's its food source. Okay. So, uh, a morel, a morel source. Okay. So, uh, a morel, a morel source. Okay. So, uh, a morel, a morel actually coincides with a tree. Um, it actually coincides with a tree. Um, it actually coincides with a tree. Um, it lives in the root source. It's not lives in the root source. It's not lives in the root source. It's not eating that tree. eating that tree. eating that tree. » It's just obtaining oxygen through that » It's just obtaining oxygen through that » It's just obtaining oxygen through that tree » or carbon dioxide, whatever it may be. » or carbon dioxide, whatever it may be. » or carbon dioxide, whatever it may be. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. » But it's consuming it through that tree. » But it's consuming it through that tree. » But it's consuming it through that tree. It's it's working in unison with that It's it's working in unison with that It's it's working in unison with that tree. So, when that tree starts to tree. So, when that tree starts to tree. So, when that tree starts to stress, starts dying, that mycelium stress, starts dying, that mycelium stress, starts dying, that mycelium recognizes that and says, "Hey, we're recognizes that and says, "Hey, we're recognizes that and says, "Hey, we're running out of our food source." running out of our food source." running out of our food source." They're not eating that tree. They're They're not eating that tree. They're They're not eating that tree. They're they're actually breathing through that they're actually breathing through that they're actually breathing through that tree. Um so when it starts running out tree. Um so when it starts running out tree. Um so when it starts running out of its source of life, it says, "Hey, we of its source of life, it says, "Hey, we of its source of life, it says, "Hey, we need to live long and prosper. So we're need to live long and prosper. So we're need to live long and prosper. So we're going to fruit this year." going to fruit this year." going to fruit this year." » If you see a decaying tree or dead » If you see a decaying tree or dead » If you see a decaying tree or dead branches, that's a sign you're going to branches, that's a sign you're going to branches, that's a sign you're going to find. find. find. » So yeah, we we like to look for the tree » So yeah, we we like to look for the tree » So yeah, we we like to look for the tree that died that year. When it comes to that died that year. When it comes to that died that year. When it comes to morels, we look for the tree that's the morels, we look for the tree that's the morels, we look for the tree that's the freshest dead. Um and it's just starting freshest dead. Um and it's just starting freshest dead. Um and it's just starting to crack on the bark, just starting to to crack on the bark, just starting to to crack on the bark, just starting to slip that bark. And that's normally the slip that bark. And that's normally the slip that bark. And that's normally the year they flush the most. And you might year they flush the most. And you might year they flush the most. And you might be able to get it for a couple years be able to get it for a couple years be able to get it for a couple years depending on how big that root source depending on how big that root source depending on how big that root source is. is. is. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Um but eventually that root source will » Um but eventually that root source will » Um but eventually that root source will dry up underground therefore killing all dry up underground therefore killing all dry up underground therefore killing all the mcelium and eventually there's no the mcelium and eventually there's no the mcelium and eventually there's no mushrooms left in that hole. So that's mushrooms left in that hole. So that's mushrooms left in that hole. So that's why you found there one year and next why you found there one year and next why you found there one year and next year you didn't. year you didn't. year you didn't. » Yeah. Yeah. Fascinating. Um so on » Yeah. Yeah. Fascinating. Um so on » Yeah. Yeah. Fascinating. Um so on Hunter's Helper, we'll we'll jump back Hunter's Helper, we'll we'll jump back Hunter's Helper, we'll we'll jump back into that on building this out. What's into that on building this out. What's into that on building this out. What's your dream for the Hunter's Helper? What your dream for the Hunter's Helper? What your dream for the Hunter's Helper? What are you hoping this means for people? are you hoping this means for people? are you hoping this means for people? Not even financially, just more like Not even financially, just more like Not even financially, just more like outcome. What do you enjoy about it? outcome. What do you enjoy about it? outcome. What do you enjoy about it? What are you hoping it'll What are you hoping it'll What are you hoping it'll » I'm I'm hoping that we continue to grow » I'm I'm hoping that we continue to grow » I'm I'm hoping that we continue to grow um stay busy with scouting land. um stay busy with scouting land. um stay busy with scouting land. It's it's really what we do and just It's it's really what we do and just It's it's really what we do and just educating people, helping people. Um the educating people, helping people. Um the educating people, helping people. Um the more the more land we get on, the more the more land we get on, the more the more land we get on, the more we can show what we can do and we can show what we can do and we can show what we can do and » Yeah, that's cool. That's like a content » Yeah, that's cool. That's like a content » Yeah, that's cool. That's like a content engine in my mind. Like what you do engine in my mind. Like what you do engine in my mind. Like what you do dayto-day feeds dayto-day feeds dayto-day feeds » and really Yeah. Really Tyler just » and really Yeah. Really Tyler just » and really Yeah. Really Tyler just started this thing, this video started this thing, this video started this thing, this video social media thing to get our name out social media thing to get our name out social media thing to get our name out there and there and there and » so that hopefully eventually we can make » so that hopefully eventually we can make » so that hopefully eventually we can make a living off of just doing what we do a living off of just doing what we do a living off of just doing what we do and doing what we love, which is just and doing what we love, which is just and doing what we love, which is just hiking around and actually just taking hiking around and actually just taking hiking around and actually just taking it in and it in and it in and » any cool networking happen from it. You » any cool networking happen from it. You » any cool networking happen from it. You mentioned the mushroom. mentioned the mushroom. mentioned the mushroom. » Yeah, we're getting we're getting well » Yeah, we're getting we're getting well » Yeah, we're getting we're getting well fungi sunglasses that helps fungi sunglasses that helps fungi sunglasses that helps with shed antlers in and the mushrooms. with shed antlers in and the mushrooms. with shed antlers in and the mushrooms. um their main target I think is the shed um their main target I think is the shed um their main target I think is the shed antlers in morels's um you know that was antlers in morels's um you know that was antlers in morels's um you know that was something that they shipped us and something that they shipped us and something that they shipped us and that's one disclaimer. We don't promote that's one disclaimer. We don't promote that's one disclaimer. We don't promote anything that we that we don't find is anything that we that we don't find is anything that we that we don't find is truly helpful. truly helpful. truly helpful. » So are these glasses helping you find » So are these glasses helping you find » So are these glasses helping you find these things? these things? these things? » Yeah. Yeah. They they kind of do a » Yeah. Yeah. They they kind of do a » Yeah. Yeah. They they kind of do a different medium. They they different medium. They they different medium. They they throwing » just they change the colors just enough » just they change the colors just enough » just they change the colors just enough to where objects pop out. Um, and I, you to where objects pop out. Um, and I, you to where objects pop out. Um, and I, you know, I was a skeptic for these know, I was a skeptic for these know, I was a skeptic for these sunglasses and uh, and then we found sunglasses and uh, and then we found sunglasses and uh, and then we found some morelss and went and put them on some morelss and went and put them on some morelss and went and put them on and it's like, "Oh, there's more. and it's like, "Oh, there's more. and it's like, "Oh, there's more. There's more." And, you know, you didn't There's more." And, you know, you didn't There's more." And, you know, you didn't see them before you put those on. So, see them before you put those on. So, see them before you put those on. So, you know, we'll promote it now, but it you know, we'll promote it now, but it you know, we'll promote it now, but it took a while, you know, it took us, of took a while, you know, it took us, of took a while, you know, it took us, of course, we weren't finding a lot of course, we weren't finding a lot of course, we weren't finding a lot of mushrooms and every time we did, we they mushrooms and every time we did, we they mushrooms and every time we did, we they were in a different vehicle or they were in a different vehicle or they were in a different vehicle or they were at the office, you know, so it finally at the office, you know, so it finally at the office, you know, so it finally worked out on that. Uh, Brunt Boots just worked out on that. Uh, Brunt Boots just worked out on that. Uh, Brunt Boots just got a hold of us. I'm really excited got a hold of us. I'm really excited got a hold of us. I'm really excited about that. out. I needed some new boots about that. out. I needed some new boots about that. out. I needed some new boots anyway. So, Brunt Boots got a hold of us anyway. So, Brunt Boots got a hold of us anyway. So, Brunt Boots got a hold of us and wanted to send us a pair of their and wanted to send us a pair of their and wanted to send us a pair of their boots. So, they're going to send us a boots. So, they're going to send us a boots. So, they're going to send us a pair of their boots. And, you know, they pair of their boots. And, you know, they pair of their boots. And, you know, they were pretty I I I guess I don't have it were pretty I I I guess I don't have it were pretty I I I guess I don't have it written professionally, but I just told written professionally, but I just told written professionally, but I just told them, "Hey, man. If it's something that them, "Hey, man. If it's something that them, "Hey, man. If it's something that I can't see myself wearing for whatever I can't see myself wearing for whatever I can't see myself wearing for whatever reason, I'm not going to talk poorly reason, I'm not going to talk poorly reason, I'm not going to talk poorly about it because it's just not for me." about it because it's just not for me." about it because it's just not for me." Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. » Um just might not talk about » Um just might not talk about » Um just might not talk about » if So, if you don't see a video come out » if So, if you don't see a video come out » if So, if you don't see a video come out on our on our social media about a on our on our social media about a on our on our social media about a certain product that got sent to us, it certain product that got sent to us, it certain product that got sent to us, it just wasn't for me. Yeah. Um, and so just wasn't for me. Yeah. Um, and so just wasn't for me. Yeah. Um, and so we're not going to put anything on you. we're not going to put anything on you. we're not going to put anything on you. But they were they were like, "That's But they were they were like, "That's But they were they were like, "That's great. That's great." You They want great. That's great." You They want great. That's great." You They want honesty out there. So, honesty out there. So, honesty out there. So, » yeah, » yeah, » yeah, » you know, that's awesome. They're gonna » you know, that's awesome. They're gonna » you know, that's awesome. They're gonna send us a pair of boots and we're going send us a pair of boots and we're going send us a pair of boots and we're going to put them through the test. At least to put them through the test. At least to put them through the test. At least what test I can give you. what test I can give you. what test I can give you. » All right. You got any good ideas or you » All right. You got any good ideas or you » All right. You got any good ideas or you going to going to going to » I think I think we just do what we » I think I think we just do what we » I think I think we just do what we normally do. I mean, I normally do. I mean, I normally do. I mean, I » Yeah. I mean, every pair of boots I have » Yeah. I mean, every pair of boots I have » Yeah. I mean, every pair of boots I have right now got blown out something on right now got blown out something on right now got blown out something on them. You know, this is messing up. I'd them. You know, this is messing up. I'd them. You know, this is messing up. I'd like to see you do like a boot review like to see you do like a boot review like to see you do like a boot review video where you're kind of putting it video where you're kind of putting it video where you're kind of putting it through the through the through the » Oh, it's they're going to get jacked up, » Oh, it's they're going to get jacked up, » Oh, it's they're going to get jacked up, dude. That's what we do. dude. That's what we do. dude. That's what we do. » Yeah, that's awesome. That's » Yeah, that's awesome. That's » Yeah, that's awesome. That's powerful. Well, good for you guys on I I powerful. Well, good for you guys on I I powerful. Well, good for you guys on I I think building a content engine is so think building a content engine is so think building a content engine is so hard. And how much easier has it gotten hard. And how much easier has it gotten hard. And how much easier has it gotten for you and Tyler to actually put out for you and Tyler to actually put out for you and Tyler to actually put out content specifically or consistently content specifically or consistently content specifically or consistently because that's hard. It's a hard habit because that's hard. It's a hard habit because that's hard. It's a hard habit to build. to build. to build. » It It is hard. It's still hard to do it » It It is hard. It's still hard to do it » It It is hard. It's still hard to do it consistently. Tyler's consistently. Tyler's consistently. Tyler's Tyler, for you guys that don't know Tyler, for you guys that don't know Tyler, for you guys that don't know Tyler, uh Tyler is sought after by Tyler, uh Tyler is sought after by Tyler, uh Tyler is sought after by everybody in in the marketing world everybody in in the marketing world everybody in in the marketing world around here. Um he does an amazing job. around here. Um he does an amazing job. around here. Um he does an amazing job. You know, I'm just blessed that he's on You know, I'm just blessed that he's on You know, I'm just blessed that he's on my team and not somebody else's team cuz my team and not somebody else's team cuz my team and not somebody else's team cuz I would be tanking. But it's hard with I would be tanking. But it's hard with I would be tanking. But it's hard with Tyler cuz he has a full-time job and Tyler cuz he has a full-time job and Tyler cuz he has a full-time job and then another job and then another job then another job and then another job then another job and then another job and another job that he's he's always and another job that he's he's always and another job that he's he's always working on something. So, you know, working on something. So, you know, working on something. So, you know, times like that where we can't get times like that where we can't get times like that where we can't get together and go and work together, together and go and work together, together and go and work together, you know, it's it's harder for me you know, it's it's harder for me you know, it's it's harder for me because a lot of a lot of me is just I because a lot of a lot of me is just I because a lot of a lot of me is just I just slip off in the woods and, you just slip off in the woods and, you just slip off in the woods and, you know, without someone there in my ear, know, without someone there in my ear, know, without someone there in my ear, you know, but he'll text me throughout you know, but he'll text me throughout you know, but he'll text me throughout the day. Hey, the day. Hey, the day. Hey, » get some content. It's like, oh god. » get some content. It's like, oh god. » get some content. It's like, oh god. » Yeah. Yeah. Are you starting to film a » Yeah. Yeah. Are you starting to film a » Yeah. Yeah. Are you starting to film a little by yourself with the phone at little by yourself with the phone at little by yourself with the phone at all? all? all? » Oh, I try, but it's not I mean, I don't » Oh, I try, but it's not I mean, I don't » Oh, I try, but it's not I mean, I don't know how this guy does it. He walks know how this guy does it. He walks know how this guy does it. He walks through the woods. I'd have like through the woods. I'd have like through the woods. I'd have like eyeballs missing, scars all over me. I eyeballs missing, scars all over me. I eyeballs missing, scars all over me. I walk into without a phone in my walk into without a phone in my walk into without a phone in my hand. This guy goes through the woods hand. This guy goes through the woods hand. This guy goes through the woods with a camera and it makes it look like with a camera and it makes it look like with a camera and it makes it look like it's cinematic. It's like I try to it's cinematic. It's like I try to it's cinematic. It's like I try to film something like this, dude. It's film something like this, dude. It's film something like this, dude. It's like start talking. Next thing you know, like start talking. Next thing you know, like start talking. Next thing you know, you're filming over here the whole time. you're filming over here the whole time. you're filming over here the whole time. » Yeah, this guy walking at me and it's » Yeah, this guy walking at me and it's » Yeah, this guy walking at me and it's perfect. I don't know how he does it, perfect. I don't know how he does it, perfect. I don't know how he does it, but he does it. but he does it. but he does it. » Yeah. Yeah. » Yeah. Yeah. » Yeah. Yeah. » And I got that guy, so don't come for » And I got that guy, so don't come for » And I got that guy, so don't come for him. him. him. I I have noticed from I've followed I I have noticed from I've followed I I have noticed from I've followed along mostly the whole time and uh you along mostly the whole time and uh you along mostly the whole time and uh you have gotten better. I I have noticed you have gotten better. I I have noticed you have gotten better. I I have noticed you definitely have gotten better. you definitely have gotten better. you definitely have gotten better. You've gotten You've gotten You've gotten » more comfortable just being you. I can » more comfortable just being you. I can » more comfortable just being you. I can tell cuz that's the hardest part about tell cuz that's the hardest part about tell cuz that's the hardest part about being on camera is changing who you are being on camera is changing who you are being on camera is changing who you are » cuz we all have like a you know phone » cuz we all have like a you know phone » cuz we all have like a you know phone call voice. We have our friend voice. We call voice. We have our friend voice. We call voice. We have our friend voice. We have our, you know, mother-in-law voice. have our, you know, mother-in-law voice. have our, you know, mother-in-law voice. Like everyone changes how they talk in Like everyone changes how they talk in Like everyone changes how they talk in certain situations and cameras really do certain situations and cameras really do certain situations and cameras really do that to people. So I feel like the best that to people. So I feel like the best that to people. So I feel like the best people on camera just don't change. people on camera just don't change. people on camera just don't change. » Yeah. Well, I I have a potty mouth. I » Yeah. Well, I I have a potty mouth. I » Yeah. Well, I I have a potty mouth. I mean, I have very limited vocabulary and mean, I have very limited vocabulary and mean, I have very limited vocabulary and most stuff. most stuff. most stuff. » Tyler also provides some censorship for » Tyler also provides some censorship for » Tyler also provides some censorship for you. you. you. » Yeah. Yeah. When we first started, he's » Yeah. Yeah. When we first started, he's » Yeah. Yeah. When we first started, he's like, "Okay, hey, go ahead and reshoot like, "Okay, hey, go ahead and reshoot like, "Okay, hey, go ahead and reshoot that cuz you dropped like four fb that cuz you dropped like four fb that cuz you dropped like four fb bombs." And I'm like, "Really?" You bombs." And I'm like, "Really?" You bombs." And I'm like, "Really?" You know, so that was hard getting over know, so that was hard getting over know, so that was hard getting over that. Um, you know, and it and then it that. Um, you know, and it and then it that. Um, you know, and it and then it get to the point where it's like, "Okay, get to the point where it's like, "Okay, get to the point where it's like, "Okay, hey, I I don't care anymore. I just got hey, I I don't care anymore. I just got hey, I I don't care anymore. I just got to do me." And but then you run into a to do me." And but then you run into a to do me." And but then you run into a neighbor or somebody that says, "Hey, my neighbor or somebody that says, "Hey, my neighbor or somebody that says, "Hey, my little kid watches you." And it's like, little kid watches you." And it's like, little kid watches you." And it's like, you know what? Maybe I could dumb that you know what? Maybe I could dumb that you know what? Maybe I could dumb that back a little bit or maybe smarten it up back a little bit or maybe smarten it up back a little bit or maybe smarten it up a little bit and not somewhere in the a little bit and not somewhere in the a little bit and not somewhere in the middle. middle. middle. » Not not say all the cuss words. » Not not say all the cuss words. » Not not say all the cuss words. » I try I try got to » I try I try got to » I try I try got to » I got to keep that in my mind when I'm » I got to keep that in my mind when I'm » I got to keep that in my mind when I'm shooting most videos is, hey, that shooting most videos is, hey, that shooting most videos is, hey, that little four-year-old, 5-year-old kid little four-year-old, 5-year-old kid little four-year-old, 5-year-old kid that you let watch those videos, I I owe that you let watch those videos, I I owe that you let watch those videos, I I owe it to them to it to them to it to them to » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. be a little more polite. be a little more polite. be a little more polite. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Maybe not. » Maybe not. » Maybe not. » There'll be a Hunter's Helper After Dark » There'll be a Hunter's Helper After Dark » There'll be a Hunter's Helper After Dark channel. I'm sure channel. I'm sure channel. I'm sure » that might be the way to go. » that might be the way to go. » that might be the way to go. That might be the podcast idea. You That might be the podcast idea. You That might be the podcast idea. You know, Hunter's Cloak after dark. That know, Hunter's Cloak after dark. That know, Hunter's Cloak after dark. That would be good. would be good. would be good. » Um, are there any questions by chance in » Um, are there any questions by chance in » Um, are there any questions by chance in there? None in there. Cool. All right. there? None in there. Cool. All right. there? None in there. Cool. All right. » People Yeah, appreciating it hanging » People Yeah, appreciating it hanging » People Yeah, appreciating it hanging with us. KGS unique rare and antique with us. KGS unique rare and antique with us. KGS unique rare and antique books. books. books. » Nice. Oh, we got Ken in there. If » Nice. Oh, we got Ken in there. If » Nice. Oh, we got Ken in there. If anybody's listening, drop a question. anybody's listening, drop a question. anybody's listening, drop a question. This will be our first experiment of This will be our first experiment of This will be our first experiment of asking a question live in a also still asking a question live in a also still asking a question live in a also still post-recorded podcast, which will be post-recorded podcast, which will be post-recorded podcast, which will be different. So, and you are technically different. So, and you are technically different. So, and you are technically going to be episode 50. So, it's pretty going to be episode 50. So, it's pretty going to be episode 50. So, it's pretty cool that uh that take failed cuz that's cool that uh that take failed cuz that's cool that uh that take failed cuz that's kind of, you know, that's a big deal for kind of, you know, that's a big deal for kind of, you know, that's a big deal for us. us. us. » I'm glad you're trying to make that. » I'm glad you're trying to make that. » I'm glad you're trying to make that. » You're episode 50 and we live streamed » You're episode 50 and we live streamed » You're episode 50 and we live streamed you. These are all my apologies cuz that you. These are all my apologies cuz that you. These are all my apologies cuz that was a bad feeling, man. So we did that was a bad feeling, man. So we did that was a bad feeling, man. So we did we tell everybody that just the did we we tell everybody that just the did we we tell everybody that just the did we did we already say that the audio didn't did we already say that the audio didn't did we already say that the audio didn't work last time that's why we continue work last time that's why we continue work last time that's why we continue » I don't know if we really got into it to » I don't know if we really got into it to » I don't know if we really got into it to be honest but yeah be honest but yeah be honest but yeah » that's why we keep referencing this why » that's why we keep referencing this why » that's why we keep referencing this why this so this so this so » retain important yeah we hung out for » retain important yeah we hung out for » retain important yeah we hung out for over an hour and zero audio there's just over an hour and zero audio there's just over an hour and zero audio there's just a lot of this » which we should have just we should dub » which we should have just we should dub it over we should just we should just it over we should just we should just it over we should just we should just take that episode and get two different take that episode and get two different take that episode and get two different people that aren't our voices say people that aren't our voices say people that aren't our voices say whatever they What? Yeah. Kung fu movie. whatever they What? Yeah. Kung fu movie. whatever they What? Yeah. Kung fu movie. That would be so good. Yeah, That would be so good. Yeah, That would be so good. Yeah, that's really good. Well, yeah. that's really good. Well, yeah. that's really good. Well, yeah. Everybody, please go follow uh The Everybody, please go follow uh The Everybody, please go follow uh The Hunter Helper uh on Tik Tok. Uh not on Hunter Helper uh on Tik Tok. Uh not on Hunter Helper uh on Tik Tok. Uh not on Facebook, right? Facebook, right? Facebook, right? » We're not on Facebook. We We need to do » We're not on Facebook. We We need to do » We're not on Facebook. We We need to do something with it, but uh somebody is something with it, but uh somebody is something with it, but uh somebody is stealing our content from our Tik Tok stealing our content from our Tik Tok stealing our content from our Tik Tok and they're putting it on Facebook. and they're putting it on Facebook. and they're putting it on Facebook. Um it's not us. Um it's not us. Um it's not us. » We talked about that cuz I tried to tag » We talked about that cuz I tried to tag » We talked about that cuz I tried to tag you guys on Facebook. I couldn't find you guys on Facebook. I couldn't find you guys on Facebook. I couldn't find it. So, Tik Tok, Instagram, and YouTube. it. So, Tik Tok, Instagram, and YouTube. it. So, Tik Tok, Instagram, and YouTube. Yes. So you guys already have like 700 Yes. So you guys already have like 700 Yes. So you guys already have like 700 subscribers on YouTube and YouTube's subscribers on YouTube and YouTube's subscribers on YouTube and YouTube's tough. tough. tough. » Yes, YouTube's a way tougher though. » Yes, YouTube's a way tougher though. » Yes, YouTube's a way tougher though. » Yeah. Yeah, it's » Yeah. Yeah, it's » Yeah. Yeah, it's » Instagram. » Instagram. » Instagram. » Rewarding. Yeah, Instagram stuff, too. » Rewarding. Yeah, Instagram stuff, too. » Rewarding. Yeah, Instagram stuff, too. And obviously you're killing it on And obviously you're killing it on And obviously you're killing it on TikTok. Um any new content ideas coming TikTok. Um any new content ideas coming TikTok. Um any new content ideas coming out? out? out? » Uh today we are going to do some um » Uh today we are going to do some um » Uh today we are going to do some um barbecuing down at the museum. barbecuing down at the museum. barbecuing down at the museum. » Uh which by the way, if you guys want to » Uh which by the way, if you guys want to » Uh which by the way, if you guys want to come down for a hamburger, I think Tyler come down for a hamburger, I think Tyler come down for a hamburger, I think Tyler might will let you have one. might will let you have one. might will let you have one. » Oh, sweet. » Oh, sweet. » Oh, sweet. » We have the grizzly burgers from » We have the grizzly burgers from » We have the grizzly burgers from » Oh, yeah. Walnut Valley. » Oh, yeah. Walnut Valley. » Oh, yeah. Walnut Valley. » I love the content you've been putting » I love the content you've been putting » I love the content you've been putting out for them. That's a great collab. out for them. That's a great collab. out for them. That's a great collab. » You know what? I've been honest to God, » You know what? I've been honest to God, » You know what? I've been honest to God, I've been getting my beef there. And I've been getting my beef there. And I've been getting my beef there. And like I say, I'm not going to put out like I say, I'm not going to put out like I say, I'm not going to put out something that I don't believe in. We've something that I don't believe in. We've something that I don't believe in. We've been getting our beef there for probably been getting our beef there for probably been getting our beef there for probably about 20 years. My family has. And we about 20 years. My family has. And we about 20 years. My family has. And we get a whole beef every year and divide get a whole beef every year and divide get a whole beef every year and divide it up amongst the family and that's it up amongst the family and that's it up amongst the family and that's where all our beef comes from for the where all our beef comes from for the where all our beef comes from for the most part. So, it's it's it's a most part. So, it's it's it's a most part. So, it's it's it's a no-brainer. It was, you know, when he no-brainer. It was, you know, when he no-brainer. It was, you know, when he reached out and said, "Hey, I need some reached out and said, "Hey, I need some reached out and said, "Hey, I need some help with advertising." And it's like, help with advertising." And it's like, help with advertising." And it's like, hey, you know, it's a good product. I've hey, you know, it's a good product. I've hey, you know, it's a good product. I've been using you all my life, so let's been using you all my life, so let's been using you all my life, so let's just all my life. just all my life. just all my life. » Yeah. It's hard to find I think it's » Yeah. It's hard to find I think it's » Yeah. It's hard to find I think it's 8515 for 450 a pound for 450 a pound for 450 a pound » on the retail side. Like even if you » on the retail side. Like even if you » on the retail side. Like even if you don't do a whole beef don't do a whole beef don't do a whole beef » well and then a crazy deal for Kansas » well and then a crazy deal for Kansas » well and then a crazy deal for Kansas beef, beef, beef, » right? You go to the store and it says » right? You go to the store and it says » right? You go to the store and it says 8020 and you cook it and next thing you 8020 and you cook it and next thing you 8020 and you cook it and next thing you know your half pound burgers look like know your half pound burgers look like know your half pound burgers look like oneird pound burgers where it's like oneird pound burgers where it's like oneird pound burgers where it's like » can we please just drive a little bit » can we please just drive a little bit » can we please just drive a little bit further down here under the bridge and further down here under the bridge and further down here under the bridge and get us beef. get us beef. get us beef. » I remember when I first moved out and I » I remember when I first moved out and I » I remember when I first moved out and I think I bought like 7030 on accident in think I bought like 7030 on accident in think I bought like 7030 on accident in my first apartment. I'm making burgers my first apartment. I'm making burgers my first apartment. I'm making burgers on the George Foreman grill cuz I was on the George Foreman grill cuz I was on the George Foreman grill cuz I was like I got it for like 40 bucks at like I got it for like 40 bucks at like I got it for like 40 bucks at Walmart on sale and I even tilted it up Walmart on sale and I even tilted it up Walmart on sale and I even tilted it up so the grease wouldn't drain. Like I I so the grease wouldn't drain. Like I I so the grease wouldn't drain. Like I I put stuff in there cuz the grease would put stuff in there cuz the grease would put stuff in there cuz the grease would run out, you know, and I'm like the run out, you know, and I'm like the run out, you know, and I'm like the grease is the best part and I just grease is the best part and I just grease is the best part and I just remember watching those things go down remember watching those things go down remember watching those things go down 50%. Little bucks. I was so disappointed 50%. Little bucks. I was so disappointed 50%. Little bucks. I was so disappointed and that's what I learned. You know, the and that's what I learned. You know, the and that's what I learned. You know, the fat content doesn't fat content doesn't fat content doesn't » We're going to do that in the Stegies uh » We're going to do that in the Stegies uh » We're going to do that in the Stegies uh barbecue sauce and seasonings. Some guy barbecue sauce and seasonings. Some guy barbecue sauce and seasonings. Some guy from Park City hit us up said, "Hey, we from Park City hit us up said, "Hey, we from Park City hit us up said, "Hey, we advertise our stuff." And same thing, advertise our stuff." And same thing, advertise our stuff." And same thing, man. If it's good, I will. If it's not, man. If it's good, I will. If it's not, man. If it's good, I will. If it's not, so we're going to do a taste test today so we're going to do a taste test today so we're going to do a taste test today down there. Nice. Where's that at? down there. Nice. Where's that at? down there. Nice. Where's that at? » At at Jeremy's Museum right down the » At at Jeremy's Museum right down the » At at Jeremy's Museum right down the road here. This new building road here. This new building road here. This new building » they're behind Naral. » they're behind Naral. » they're behind Naral. » Nice. Perfect. And that's where the » Nice. Perfect. And that's where the » Nice. Perfect. And that's where the cookout is. cookout is. cookout is. » Yeah. Gota Jeremy just bought us a brand » Yeah. Gota Jeremy just bought us a brand » Yeah. Gota Jeremy just bought us a brand new Blackstone for this event. So, new Blackstone for this event. So, new Blackstone for this event. So, » we just seasoned it up yesterday and » we just seasoned it up yesterday and » we just seasoned it up yesterday and » Yeah, that'll be some good content. » Yeah, that'll be some good content. » Yeah, that'll be some good content. » Hopefully. Hopefully. » Hopefully. Hopefully. » Hopefully. Hopefully. » You going to slide any uh mushrooms in » You going to slide any uh mushrooms in » You going to slide any uh mushrooms in there at all? there at all? there at all? » No. No. You know, there's just not » No. No. You know, there's just not » No. No. You know, there's just not enough time of the day sometimes to get enough time of the day sometimes to get enough time of the day sometimes to get » Yeah, that's tough. » Yeah, that's tough. » Yeah, that's tough. » When I get out of the woods, it's like a » When I get out of the woods, it's like a » When I get out of the woods, it's like a whole day. If Tyler's not there to crack whole day. If Tyler's not there to crack whole day. If Tyler's not there to crack whip on me on a time schedule, whip on me on a time schedule, whip on me on a time schedule, » it'll be dark before I know it. » it'll be dark before I know it. » it'll be dark before I know it. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. » All right. Got one question. » All right. Got one question. » All right. Got one question. » All right. We got a question. » All right. We got a question. » All right. We got a question. » Productions. Who's the Little Joe you » Productions. Who's the Little Joe you » Productions. Who's the Little Joe you always talk about? always talk about? always talk about? » Little Joe. Little Joe's the newest » Little Joe. Little Joe's the newest » Little Joe. Little Joe's the newest member. The newest member of sility. member. The newest member of sility. member. The newest member of sility. Little Joe. Uh he's Little Joe. Uh he's Little Joe. Uh he's » one of those guys that looks like » one of those guys that looks like » one of those guys that looks like he's 40 and he's 21. Uh he's 40 and he's 21. Uh he's 40 and he's 21. Uh » oh, we're talking about Yousef. » oh, we're talking about Yousef. » oh, we're talking about Yousef. » YOUSEF? YEAH. » YOUSEF? YEAH. » YOUSEF? YEAH. » Little Joe. » Little Joe. » Little Joe. » Yousef. So you kept referencing the » Yousef. So you kept referencing the » Yousef. So you kept referencing the question was little Joe and that's question was little Joe and that's question was little Joe and that's Yousef. They knew that and had already Yousef. They knew that and had already Yousef. They knew that and had already forgotten. forgotten. forgotten. » Yeah. Yousef means Joe and » Yeah. Yousef means Joe and » Yeah. Yousef means Joe and » for everyone else, the founder of Srren » for everyone else, the founder of Srren » for everyone else, the founder of Srren is Joe. is Joe. is Joe. » Is Joe Sren? Yes. » Is Joe Sren? Yes. » Is Joe Sren? Yes. » And Yousef they're uh you know is Joe 2 » And Yousef they're uh you know is Joe 2 » And Yousef they're uh you know is Joe 2 2.0. How did it start? 2.0. How did it start? 2.0. How did it start? » Well, Yousef I guess means Joe in » Well, Yousef I guess means Joe in » Well, Yousef I guess means Joe in whatever language that is. whatever language that is. whatever language that is. » For real? » For real? » For real? » Yeah, I guess. That's what I've been » Yeah, I guess. That's what I've been » Yeah, I guess. That's what I've been told. told. told. » What's that made up? » What's that made up? » What's that made up? » Joseph. Yousef. Joseph. » Joseph. Yousef. Joseph. » Joseph. Yousef. Joseph. » Oh, Yousef is Joseph. Okay. Well, I » Oh, Yousef is Joseph. Okay. Well, I » Oh, Yousef is Joseph. Okay. Well, I honestly wouldn't trust you guys. I honestly wouldn't trust you guys. I honestly wouldn't trust you guys. I would assume you're making that up. So I would assume you're making that up. So I would assume you're making that up. So I am I do want to fact check that. am I do want to fact check that. am I do want to fact check that. Somebody search Yousef's meaning. Somebody search Yousef's meaning. Somebody search Yousef's meaning. » So little Joe is he's brilliant young » So little Joe is he's brilliant young » So little Joe is he's brilliant young man. Um he's very well educated and he man. Um he's very well educated and he man. Um he's very well educated and he can educate himself very fast. Um I can educate himself very fast. Um I can educate himself very fast. Um I think he has property ownership in the think he has property ownership in the think he has property ownership in the state of Kansas down better than my OnX state of Kansas down better than my OnX state of Kansas down better than my OnX maps. maps. maps. » Oh wow. » Oh wow. » Oh wow. » Um he can tell me who owns that land » Um he can tell me who owns that land » Um he can tell me who owns that land before I get the dagger map out and up. before I get the dagger map out and up. before I get the dagger map out and up. Um impressive. So he he's he's very Um impressive. So he he's he's very Um impressive. So he he's he's very intelligent. But little Joe is always intelligent. But little Joe is always intelligent. But little Joe is always trying to learn and I love that about trying to learn and I love that about trying to learn and I love that about him and he's at the age to where hey, him and he's at the age to where hey, him and he's at the age to where hey, you know, he didn't grow up in the woods you know, he didn't grow up in the woods you know, he didn't grow up in the woods like we did. So, it really intrigues me like we did. So, it really intrigues me like we did. So, it really intrigues me when he when he has questions for me when he when he has questions for me when he when he has questions for me because he's sincere about it and he'll because he's sincere about it and he'll because he's sincere about it and he'll go out on his days off and do this by go out on his days off and do this by go out on his days off and do this by himself and he'll just call me, hey, himself and he'll just call me, hey, himself and he'll just call me, hey, what do I need to do differently here? what do I need to do differently here? what do I need to do differently here? Hey, you know, where's where would these Hey, you know, where's where would these Hey, you know, where's where would these antlers be laying at? Or hey, what kind antlers be laying at? Or hey, what kind antlers be laying at? Or hey, what kind of mushroom is this? And it's like, hey, of mushroom is this? And it's like, hey, of mushroom is this? And it's like, hey, you're on the right path, you know? So, you're on the right path, you know? So, you're on the right path, you know? So, I try to help him as much as possible. I try to help him as much as possible. I try to help him as much as possible. He was at our data center town hall He was at our data center town hall He was at our data center town hall meeting taking notes sitting back there meeting taking notes sitting back there meeting taking notes sitting back there learning. learning. learning. » He used to go out with us when we first » He used to go out with us when we first » He used to go out with us when we first started this hunter's helper thing. He started this hunter's helper thing. He started this hunter's helper thing. He would ride along with us and he would ride along with us and he would ride along with us and he would show up and Tyler and I are like five show up and Tyler and I are like five show up and Tyler and I are like five layers deep on clothes. You know, we're layers deep on clothes. You know, we're layers deep on clothes. You know, we're we're smart enough to know we can take we're smart enough to know we can take we're smart enough to know we can take this stuff off when we start getting this stuff off when we start getting this stuff off when we start getting warm up. Little Joe shows up in a warm up. Little Joe shows up in a warm up. Little Joe shows up in a windbreaker and office clothes. And windbreaker and office clothes. And windbreaker and office clothes. And it's like it's like it's like » so one of our first videos is like Joe » so one of our first videos is like Joe » so one of our first videos is like Joe layers. It's all about layers. Okay. You layers. It's all about layers. Okay. You layers. It's all about layers. Okay. You can't put on what you don't have. You can't put on what you don't have. You can't put on what you don't have. You can't can't take off what you don't You can't can't take off what you don't You can't can't take off what you don't have on. So, yeah. He shows up in this have on. So, yeah. He shows up in this have on. So, yeah. He shows up in this little windbreaker and it's freezing little windbreaker and it's freezing little windbreaker and it's freezing that day. that day. that day. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Snowed on us. » Snowed on us. » Snowed on us. » Oh, yeah. Yeah. He had a couple Yeah. He » Oh, yeah. Yeah. He had a couple Yeah. He » Oh, yeah. Yeah. He had a couple Yeah. He had a couple outings that were freezing. had a couple outings that were freezing. had a couple outings that were freezing. Yeah. But one of them Yeah. I forgot Yeah. But one of them Yeah. I forgot Yeah. But one of them Yeah. I forgot about that one over east there where it about that one over east there where it about that one over east there where it snowed on us and snowed on us and snowed on us and » Yeah. make a little bitty windbreaker, » Yeah. make a little bitty windbreaker, » Yeah. make a little bitty windbreaker, you know. It's like Yousef, you got you know. It's like Yousef, you got you know. It's like Yousef, you got you got to start using your heads, huh? But, got to start using your heads, huh? But, got to start using your heads, huh? But, you know, just you know, just you know, just » that's awesome. » that's awesome. » that's awesome. » It's good. It's good that more people » It's good. It's good that more people » It's good. It's good that more people are wanting to get out there. And for are wanting to get out there. And for are wanting to get out there. And for someone like that has a brain that someone like that has a brain that someone like that has a brain that just continues to want to educate just continues to want to educate just continues to want to educate yourself, by all means, I'll I'll take yourself, by all means, I'll I'll take yourself, by all means, I'll I'll take your calls all night long. your calls all night long. your calls all night long. » I think it'd be fun to do a live » I think it'd be fun to do a live » I think it'd be fun to do a live foraging uh podcast or not live, but a foraging uh podcast or not live, but a foraging uh podcast or not live, but a actual foraging podcast would be kind of actual foraging podcast would be kind of actual foraging podcast would be kind of fun. Uh in the right season, just go out fun. Uh in the right season, just go out fun. Uh in the right season, just go out there for an hour and record everything. there for an hour and record everything. there for an hour and record everything. » Yeah. And it might be easiest in the » Yeah. And it might be easiest in the » Yeah. And it might be easiest in the winter time for winter oysters. Uh just winter time for winter oysters. Uh just winter time for winter oysters. Uh just so we don't have to deal with the ticks. so we don't have to deal with the ticks. so we don't have to deal with the ticks. » Oh yeah, that'd be great. Yeah, I'm a » Oh yeah, that'd be great. Yeah, I'm a » Oh yeah, that'd be great. Yeah, I'm a big fan of not having ticks. big fan of not having ticks. big fan of not having ticks. » Yeah, this year. » Yeah, this year. » Yeah, this year. » Some of the some of my summer oyster » Some of the some of my summer oyster » Some of the some of my summer oyster grounds, they're they're pretty deep in grounds, they're they're pretty deep in grounds, they're they're pretty deep in the sticks. So the sticks. So the sticks. So » Okay. Yeah, that'd be fun. We should do » Okay. Yeah, that'd be fun. We should do » Okay. Yeah, that'd be fun. We should do that. All right. Well, you need to go that. All right. Well, you need to go that. All right. Well, you need to go grill, so I'm going to let you leave and grill, so I'm going to let you leave and grill, so I'm going to let you leave and thanks for being on. thanks for being on. thanks for being on. » Hey, appreciate hopefully the audio » Hey, appreciate hopefully the audio » Hey, appreciate hopefully the audio comes through. People are saying people comes through. People are saying people comes through. People are saying people are commenting that they're hearing, so are commenting that they're hearing, so are commenting that they're hearing, so I think it worked this time. Thanks so I think it worked this time. Thanks so I think it worked this time. Thanks so much, Tyl. much, Tyl. much, Tyl. » Thanks, Sam. I appreciate you, brother. ---